submissions like this make me wonder?

packCollector · June 15, 2009 7:29AM

If this is anyone's here please don't take it the wrong way. I just wonder

1.)if the grading has really gotten this tough
2.)was the grader in that bad a mood
3.) is it someone who is really rich
4.)someone who just does not have an idea on grading and is going to be cursing for a year
5.) just someone who truely loves collecting

350 card sub, hmmmmm

PoppaJ · June 15, 2009 7:38AM

<< If this is anyone's here please don't take it the wrong way. I just wonder

1.)if the grading has really gotten this tough
2.)was the grader in that bad a mood
3.) is it someone who is really rich
4.)someone who just does not have an idea on grading and is going to be cursing for a year
5.) just someone who truely loves collecting

350 card sub, hmmmmm >>

/////////////////////////////

1.) No
2.) No
3.) No
4.) Yes
5.) Not Any More

WinPitcher · June 15, 2009 7:41AM

Yikes.

Around 2k for that?

Steve

digicat · June 15, 2009 7:51AM

It seems like this submission was put together by someone who has not been paying attention to baseball for the last 18 years.

Jim Abbott, Steve Avery, Ron Gant, Deion Sanders, Tom Gordon, Dave Justice?

I'm surprised I don't see Ben McDonnald or Todd Van Poppel in this sub!

EagleEyeKid · June 15, 2009 7:51AM

Probably 3, 4, and 5.
Yuck.

gregm13 · June 15, 2009 7:56AM

Wow - The seller would be lucky to recoup $200 from that bag of garbage!

Rgs,

Greg M.

Treetop · June 15, 2009 7:58AM

I'm sure Joe O. will be getting a phone call, telling him his graders are idiots and the submitter had these cards since he was a kid, storing them in a shoebox in his closet and they were all mint when he sent them to PSA

Dboneesq · June 15, 2009 8:00AM

My guess is someone who LOVES collecting ... has a few bucks to piss away ... and just subbed cards of anyone who, at one time, was a "hot rookie", "good ballplayer" or it's a "Old Card".

SO many people who are just getting into collecting think anything from the 70s and before MUST be worth money

nam812 · June 15, 2009 8:06AM

Just wait until CDsNuts sees how you guys are ragging on his submission.

EagleEyeKid · June 15, 2009 8:07AM

Some highlights. Now I just feel bad for the guy. What do you do with this stuff?
Possible contenders against the PSA 1 MK 1988 Donruss Mike LaVaillea (sp?)

64 1 14607968 NEAR MINT 7 1990 DONRUSS 39 STEVE AVERY
66 1 14607970 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 TOPPS 675 JIM ABBOTT
86 1 14607990 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 UPPER DECK 774 NOLAN RYAN
98 1 14608002 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1990 BOWMAN INSERTS NOLAN RYAN
107 1 14608011 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1983 DRAKE'S 4 GARY CARTER
111 1 14608015 VERY GOOD 3 1975 TOPPS 306 BATTING LEADERS R.CAREW/R.GARR
134 1 14608039 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1981 FLEER 268 ROD CAREW
150 1 14608055 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1992 SCORE 890 TOM GLAVINE
152 1 14608057 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 TOPPS GLOSSY ROOKIES 10 TOM GORDON
156 1 14608061 EXCELLENT 5 1988 SCORE 645 GREGG JEFFERIES
169 1 14608074 VERY GOOD+ 3.5 1986 SPORTFLICS 3 WADE BOGGS
172 1 14608077 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1987 TOPPS STICKERS 152 DAVE WINFIELD FOIL
190 2 14608097 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1987 TOPPS ALL-STAR GLOSSY SET OF 22 21 ROGER CLEMENS
191 1 14608099 EXCELLENT 5 1987 TOPPS ALL-STAR GLOSSY SET OF 22 6 TONY GWYNN
206 1 14608114 EXCELLENT 5 1989 TOPPS 343 GARY SHEFFIELD
228 1 14608144 GOOD 2 1986 TOPPS TRADED 24T WILL CLARK
297 1 14608220 NEAR MINT 7 1990 DONRUSS 39 STEVE AVERY
297 2 14608221 EXCELLENT 5 1990 DONRUSS 39 STEVE AVERY
297 3 14608222 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1990 DONRUSS 39 STEVE AVERY
298 2 14608224 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 TOPPS 784 STEVE AVERY
299 1 14608225 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 SCORE 380 JEROMY BURNITZ
300 1 14608226 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1992 UPPER DECK 65 JEROMY BURNITZ
343 1 14608270 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1988 TOPPS 261 GIANTS LEADERS
344 1 14608271 EXCELLENT 5 1987 TOPPS STICKERS DENNIS BOYD-249/WILL CLARK-88
349 1 14608278 EXCELLENT 5 1992 SCORE 791 TOM GLAVINE

tunahead08 · June 15, 2009 8:11AM

I'm sure we'll see it on ebay soon for $30+ BIN's and great titles with things like "RARE!!", "Vintage", and "Great investment potential!"

OAKESY25 · June 15, 2009 8:15AM

moment of silence for this guys money

Alfonz24 · June 15, 2009 8:18AM

For the people who were on this board a couple of years ago:

prscott933 · June 15, 2009 8:30AM

<< 
Possible contenders against the PSA 1 MK 1988 Donruss Mike LaVaillea (sp?) >>

no way, but i do have something in the group submission to put next to Mike... if it gets graded.

there were nine 10's and three 2's in that sub. fun stuff.

edited to add:

gameusedhoop · June 15, 2009 8:35AM

You'll be seeing alot of them advertised as POP of 1, and 1/1 for sure

EagleEyeKid · June 15, 2009 8:38AM

Now you've got me thinking about creating something far more hideous than
the LaValliere. Is it possible to get multiple qualifiers on a card?

lsutigers1973 · June 15, 2009 9:33AM

<< I'm surprised I don't see Ben McDonnald or Todd Van Poppel in this sub! >>

Please don't hate on the LSU guy. I just subbed a 1990 Topps Ben McDonald.

ElToroLoco · June 15, 2009 9:39AM

It's possible that this was someone's personal collection, way back when, and were graded for keepsake/sentimental purposes. I've recently gone through a few of my collection when I was a teen and I can tell you I'd rather have a PSA 7 1990 Bo Jackson from my collection than a PSA 10 off an eBay auction. It's also possible that this was subbed by the next of kin of someone that has recently passed away.

MBMiller25 · June 15, 2009 9:40AM

I'm not going to say a thing, I can't grade for crap. I just subbed 22 Paul O'Neil cards that will probbaly look like a train wreck when they come back.

lsutigers1973 · June 15, 2009 9:43AM

I have just about had enough of the people here picking on the crap I sub.

Nathaniel1960 · June 15, 2009 9:52AM

297 2 14608221 EXCELLENT 5 1990 DONRUSS 39 STEVE AVERY

Re-sub candidate?

therebelas · June 15, 2009 9:55AM

Wow. Wish I had that kind of money. I sent Craig some stuff for my first Group Sub that's stuff from when I was a kid or rookies of my all-time favorites that I don't really care what grades they get, but still!

BassPro77 · June 15, 2009 10:01AM

<< I have just about had enough of the people here picking on the crap I sub. >>

why, what did you sub this time?

Yankees001 · June 15, 2009 11:58PM

I hope my cards get better grades than those.

WOW. I only looked at a few cards on the list. I hope he sent in some Mike Greenwell, Jerome Walton and Walt Weiss Rookies.

lsutigers1973 · June 16, 2009 12:05AM

<< I hope he sent in some Mike Greenwell >>

A minty fresh 1987 Donruss Mike Greenwell should be arriving shortly at Craig's house.

leathtech · June 16, 2009 12:06AM

good to see this was a 10!

1988 SPORTFLICS 162 DAVE STEWART

sivotco1 · June 16, 2009 12:23AM

<< moment of silence for this guys money >>

man, that was hilarious---still laughing--

gregm13 · June 16, 2009 3:15AM

<< I'm sure we'll see it on ebay soon for $30+ BIN's and great titles with things like "RARE!!", "Vintage", and "Great investment potential!" >>

I bet a lot of those cards are true 1 of 1's!!

Rgs,

Greg M.

jeffcbay · June 16, 2009 3:22AM

Silver lining?

102 1 14608006 GEM MINT 10 1989 TOPPS TRADED 106T NOLAN RYAN
148 1 14608053 GEM MINT 10 1992 U.S. PLAYING CARD ACES TOM GLAVINE ACES-JOKER
149 1 14608054 GEM MINT 10 1992 U.S. PLAYING CARD ACES TOM GLAVINE ACES-QUEEN OF SPADES
165 1 14608070 GEM MINT 10 1987 SPORTFLICS 44 REGGIE JACKSON
185 1 14608090 GEM MINT 10 1988 TOPPS STICKERCARD 33 LEE SMITH FITZGERALD-248/BARRETT-78
199 1 14608107 GEM MINT 10 1990 CLASSIC T91 "TEXAS HEAT" N.RYAN/R.RYAN-SERIES III
241 1 14608157 GEM MINT 10 1982 TOPPS 685 BERT BLYLEVEN
295 1 14608218 GEM MINT 10 1987 SPORTFLICS 34 TIM RAINES
306 1 14608232 GEM MINT 10 1988 SPORTFLICS 162 DAVE STEWART

dontippet · June 16, 2009 3:31AM

That submission sort of looks like the old 3 ring binder I have full of 9 card pages full of the late 80's and early 90's hot stars and rookies. My guess is somebody noticed how PSA cards sell for more than raw cards, and decided to submit their old 3 ring binder without paying much attention.

jradke4 · June 16, 2009 4:28AM

more the likely #4. but i might (and probably will) get the same results from my next two subs. but in my case one is older cards (t206's, early leaf/bowman football etc) and the other is a larger patch sub. those thick patches always take a beating from graders.

thedutymon · June 16, 2009 4:36AM

<< I have just about had enough of the people here picking on the crap I sub. >>

Well as they say then Bill.......................Quit subbing Crap!!!!!!!

Neil

PSASAP · June 16, 2009 5:15AM

This is your brain on drugs, any questions?

bsidegrve · June 16, 2009 5:33AM

If a grader sees a rare high value card I would think they would show other graders the item they were grading. "wow look at this item Bob"

Wonder if they do the same with these subs "holy Sh$t! look at this crap Bob"

123Slider · June 16, 2009 5:33AM

Those darn wrinkles will get you everytime. You just know all of thise 4's and 5's looked like 9's and 10's

mtcards · June 16, 2009 7:31AM

IMO, this is someone who collected in the late 80's and got out of the hobby for a while and has come back without ever doing research on what this garbage is selling for. T

People see $2 cards on ebay going for several hundred (86 Ryan)... they think ALL graded cards are that way without researching WHY they are that way. This guy probably thought he was going to make aa fortune on this, which would also fall into line with many of the collectors who started in 1987-1988, they got in it to make some $$$$.

jswieton · June 16, 2009 7:41AM

That sub is ridiculous but I am pretty sure this guy is not looking to have those cards graded for a financial gain. He probably collected as a kid and wanted his collection slabed for sentimental reasons. I have subbed a cards that I knew would not grade well but I obtained them as a kid and wanted them encapsulated to preserve them.

Yankees001 · June 16, 2009 8:05AM

<< 

<< I hope he sent in some Mike Greenwell >>

A minty fresh 1987 Donruss Mike Greenwell should be arriving shortly at Craig's house.

>>

Bill I think your PSA10 is better than a PSA5 like he probably sent in.

Dave

otwcards · June 16, 2009 9:13AM

I just wonder if the submitter is also in the market to buy any cards from this era. I know I've got monster boxes of that stuff in storage and I can assure him that the worst of the lot will be better than the stuff he sent in!

NickM · June 17, 2009 4:10AM

There are a lot of N9s. I suspect that the submission included a number of Broders.

Nick

Allen · June 17, 2009 4:22AM

<< There are a lot of N9s. I suspect that the submission included a number of Broders.

Nick >>

I thought the same thing.

submissions like this make me wonder?

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