PSA can confuse me...
burke23
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How is this a PSA 10 with those edges? I am keeping a copy of this, and if I have my 1980 Bird come back anything but a ten (it has very minor fluff on the edge), I am sending Joe this picture and my card and demanding...something. Haven't gotten that far yet.
pete
pete
Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
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PSA doesn't always get the grade right, and their acknowledgment of that is implicit in their offering a review service... I doubt that you'd get very far with the argument that because that particular card slid through, you should get a break on yours.
I do agree that's a real stretch for a 10, though, and for reasons I've never understood, they don't penalize for rough cuts as they do for other production defects.
Good luck with your Bird.
http://www.marshmallowfluff.com/
It means squat if I agree with you.
Grading is subjective.
Steve
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
<< <i>I like it rough (cuts that is). Got some 77 OPC baseball that looks like shag carpet. >>
I dont believe rough cuts knock a grade all that much expecially when the set is know for it. Early 80's Fleer had quite a few rough cuts.
My Sandberg topps basic set
My Sandberg Topps Master set
Not saying PSA is right or wrong, just saying that is the standard they use.
Steve
PoppaJ
<< <i>"Buy the Card, NOT the Holder!" >>
Pappa J hit it the nail right on the head.
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<< <i>"Buy the Card, NOT the Holder!" >>
Pappa J hit it the nail right on the head. >>
He is a carpenter. Didnt you see that he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night?
<< <i>Sounds like a plan that will get you some great results. Joe responds really well to demands. >>
Damn - I was kidding. I wasn't expecting to get beat on about this sarcastic thread...oh well. I would include a scan of the Bird, but Gumby probably has it by now as part of the big group sub.
Actually you got off easy.
Steve
<< <i>How is this a PSA 10 with those edges? I am keeping a copy of this, and if I have my 1980 Bird come back anything but a ten (it has very minor fluff on the edge), I am sending Joe this picture and my card and demanding...something. Haven't gotten that far yet.
pete >>
There's a significant difference between "fluff" and a rough cut. Without an image to compare against, the threat is moot.
<< <i>How is this a PSA 10 with those edges? I am keeping a copy of this, and if I have my 1980 Bird come back anything but a ten (it has very minor fluff on the edge), I am sending Joe this picture and my card and demanding...something. Haven't gotten that far yet.
pete >>
pete--
If it will make you feel any better check out this slideshow. In each case the second cards are mine.
No relief.
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There's a significant difference between "fluff" and a rough cut. Without an image to compare against, the threat is moot. >>
Really there was no threat - it was more about the perceived poor quality of the ebay card versus my own card - although it gives me hop that the light fluff (it's not chipping from what i can tell) won't hold my Bird back from a potential 10. Of course with my luck it will come back trimmed. Seriously I can't provide a scan now since its in Gumbyfan's hands - oh well.
<< <i>Damn - I was kidding. I wasn't expecting to get beat on about this sarcastic thread...oh well. I would include a scan of the Bird, but Gumby probably has it by now as part of the big group sub. >>
Sarcasm usually doesn't translate on message boards, emails, etc... It took me a two or three threads like yours to figure that out. Or was it four or five? ... I'm a slow learner.
It also has been my experience that a card could be a 9 and get a 10
The difference is so minute between the 2 grades that stressing over why one card received
it (10) and one didn't is counter productive.
keep your fingers crossed and pray for the 9 Pete.
Steve
"A PSA Gem Mint 10 card is a virtually perfect card. Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse."
To me a rough edge does not fit the definition of a "virtually perfect card" and it's not even close.
Not sure I saw anyone say anything differently.
If PSA and you for that matter want to make allowances for how a card was cut at the factory that is fine.
Other people can have a different opinion on what they think a gem card is.
Steve
<< <i>Where in PSA's description of a PSA 10's attributes does it mention how a card was cut from the sheet? Consideration must be made for the range of rough cut that's normally found with a particular issue. PSA can't say that PSA 10 grade cards must have razor sharp edges when many cards were never made that way. The attributes they list are ones that typically apply to all cards. >>
I understand the point but I disagree with it - if it wasn't the manufacturer's design to produce a rough edge - and say all the cards from that manufacturer for a given series were all rough edges, then there shouldn't be any PSA 10's issued for that series...in my viewpoint.
I go as far as say that no such cards should even be called mint.
Steve
<< <i>I agree.
I go as far as say that no such cards should even be called mint.
Steve >>
and I'm not saying rough edges can't be cool and aren't a nice collectible - I happen to sometimes like "error cards" "miscut cards" and the sort as collectibles and interesting conversation pieces, depending on the card - they just shouldn't get PSA 10's...in my opinion. Oh well.....
Of course that is only my opinion, PSA 's opinion differs.
Steve