Another disappointing sub

larryallen73 · June 10, 2009 12:51AM

I will be the first to admit I don't spend enough time evaluating my cards before subbing them. I often include a few that I "hope" will get by the graders. However, having said that, this is even worse than normal. Missed a surface wrinkle as usual. Also a few head scratchers as always. One positive, no qualifiers! I officially give up on trying to grade '86 Topps!

Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country
1 1 14651291 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 77 MIKE COOPER WEST Card US
2 1 14651292 MINT 9 1989 HOOPS 35 KEVIN JOHNSON Card US
3 1 14651293 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 FLEER STICKER 3 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
4 1 14651294 NEAR MINT 7 1989 FLEER STICKER 4 CHARLES BARKLEY Card US
5 1 14651295 NEAR MINT 7 1990 FLEER 93 MAGIC JOHNSON Card US
6 1 14651296 MINT 9 1990 FLEER 26 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
7 1 14651297 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 SKYBOX 14 LARRY BIRD Card US
8 1 14651298 NEAR MINT 7 1990 SKYBOX 41 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
9 1 14651299 NEAR MINT 7 1990 HOOPS 113 TIM HARDAWAY Card US
10 1 14651300 MINT 9 1990 HOOPS 113 TIM HARDAWAY Card US
11 1 14651301 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 HOOPS 154 VLADE DIVAC Card US
12 1 14651302 MINT 9 1991 FLEER 211 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
13 1 14651303 MINT 9 1991 FLEER 211 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
14 1 14651304 N9: NOT GRADED NO SPEC INFO, NO GRADE VOUCHER Card US
15 1 14651305 MINT 9 1992 SKYBOX USA BASKETBALL 38 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
16 1 14651306 GEM MINT 10 1992 SKYBOX USA BASKETBALL 43 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
17 1 14651307 MINT 9 1992 ULTRA AWARD WINNERS 1 MICHAEL JORDAN AWARD WINNER Card US
18 1 14651308 MINT 9 1992 ULTRA 27 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
18 2 14651309 MINT 9 1992 ULTRA 27 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
18 3 14651310 GEM MINT 10 1992 ULTRA 27 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
18 4 14651311 GEM MINT 10 1992 ULTRA 27 MICHAEL JORDAN Card US
19 1 14651312 MINT 9 1992 CLASSIC DRAFT PICKS 1 SHAQUILLE O'NEAL Card US
20 1 14651313 MINT 9 1992 CLASSIC 4 SPORT 318 SHAQUILLE O'NEAL Card US
20 2 14651314 MINT 9 1992 CLASSIC 4 SPORT 318 SHAQUILLE O'NEAL Card US
21 1 14651315 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 SP HOLOVIEWS PC34 GRANT HILL PREMIUM COLLECTION Card US
22 1 14651316 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 SP MJ1 MICHAEL JORDAN RED Card US
23 1 14651317 MINT 9 1994 SP 121 SHAQUILLE O'NEAL Card US
24 1 14651318 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 SP 2 JASON KIDD FOIL Card US
25 1 14651319 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1994 SP 3 GRANT HILL FOIL Card US
26 1 14651320 NEAR MINT 7 1994 SP D121 SHAQUILLE O'NEAL DIE-CUT Card US
27 1 14651321 NEAR MINT 7 1994 SP HOLOVIEWS DPC6 LATRELL SPREWELL DIE-CUT-PREMIUM COLLECTION Card US
28 1 14651322 GEM MINT 10 2007 FINEST 104 RUSSELL WESTBROOK REFRACTOR Card US
29 1 14651323 GEM MINT 10 2008 TOPPS SIGNATURE TS-RW RUSSELL WESTBROOK RED FOIL Card US
30 1 14651324 GEM MINT 10 2008 TOPPS T-51 MURAD 174 RUSSELL WESTBROOK BLUE Card US
31 1 14651325 GEM MINT 10 2008 SP AUTHENTIC AUTHENTIC PROFILES AP-49 RUSSELL WESTBROOK Card US
32 1 14651326 GEM MINT 10 2008 UPPER DECK LINEAGE 204 RUSSELL WESTBROOK Card US
33 1 14651327 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 TOPPS 128 JIMMY CEFALO Card US
34 1 14651328 EXCELLENT 5 1982 TOPPS 229 WES CHANDLER Card US
35 1 14651329 MINT 9 1982 TOPPS 364 JAMES LOFTON ALL-PRO Card US
36 1 14651330 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 180 PETE ROSE Card US
37 1 14651331 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 201 JOHNNY BENCH Card US
38 1 14651332 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 290 BOB BOONE Card US
39 1 14651333 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 318 STEVE YEAGER Card US
40 1 14651334 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 TOPPS 479 EXPOS FUTURE STARS T.RAINES/R.RAMOS/B.PATE Card US
41 1 14651335 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 493 DAN QUISENBERRY Card US
42 1 14651336 GEM MINT 10 1981 TOPPS 629 TONY ARMAS Card US
43 1 14651337 MINT 9 1981 TOPPS 726 RICK MONDAY Card US
44 1 14651338 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 780 ROBIN YOUNT Card US
45 1 14651339 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 769 HAROLD REYNOLDS Card US
46 1 14651340 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 721 RON GUIDRY Card US
47 1 14651341 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 712 DON MATTINGLY Card US
48 1 14651342 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 709 DWIGHT GOODEN Card US
49 1 14651343 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 651 BILLY MARTIN Card US
50 1 14651344 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 620 BRUCE SUTTER Card US
51 1 14651345 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 510 WADE BOGGS Card US
52 1 14651346 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 470 BILL MADLOCK Card US
53 1 14651347 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 443 BILL BUCKNER Card US
54 1 14651348 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 405 ROGER MARIS TURN BACK THE CLOCK Card US
55 1 14651349 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 386 CECIL FIELDER Card US
56 1 14651350 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 351 CHUCK TANNER Card US
57 1 14651351 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 300 GEORGE BRETT Card US
58 1 14651352 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 241 TONY FENANDEZ Card US
59 1 14651353 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 85 TONY PEREZ Card US
60 1 14651354 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 11 BOB OJEDA Card US
61 1 14651355 GEM MINT 10 1986 TOPPS 396 RED SOX LEADERS DWIGHT EVANS Card US
62 1 14651356 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 4 PETE ROSE SPECIAL 1971-74 Card US
63 1 14651357 MINT 9 1986 TOPPS 2 PETE ROSE SPECIAL 1963-66 Card US
64 1 14651358 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 TOPPS 250 DWIGHT GOODEN Card US

Total Items: 68
Date Received: 5/12/2009
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK

jradke4 · June 10, 2009 1:00AM

well first nearly half of your sub was from some of the most difficult issues for high grades. 1986 Topps Baseball and 1981 Topps baseball. 94 SP's are also tough as well with the foil border and the holoviews are very easy to get smudges or straches on. the only ones were you probably needed to spend some time on are the early 90's BKB. seems like a little more examination might have been in order. it always helps when you have multiples of a card to look through. i generally focus on corners and centering first to widdle done the lot. then look over the rest of the card for gloss etc. surface wrinkles are always the toughest...some times psa even misses them. i generally forget to even look for them.

lsutigers1973 · June 10, 2009 1:15AM

Same response. I wouldn't be too upset about the 81's and 86's. The 8's are 9's and the 9's are 10's on any given day from those two sets. On the 81's, I've received 10's on cards I was only expecting a 9 and 8's on cards that I thought were surefire 10's.

mtcards · June 10, 2009 2:20AM

WTH is this?

14 1 14651304 N9: NOT GRADED NO SPEC INFO, NO GRADE VOUCHER Card US

Is that the "We feel somethings wrong, but its lunchtime and we dont feel like going into detail on it, thanks for the $6"?

larryallen73 · June 10, 2009 3:08AM

WTH is this?

14 1 14651304 N9: NOT GRADED NO SPEC INFO, NO GRADE VOUCHER Card US

Is that the "We feel somethings wrong, but its lunchtime and we dont feel like going into detail on it, thanks for the $6"?

It was some oddball Michael Jordan card I had laying around. I do not remember exactly what it was but I assume it was an unlicensed Jordan card. That's my recollection.

SidePocket · June 10, 2009 3:28AM

Can you really make money grading the 86 Topps BB? I'm just curious. Do 10's really sell for that much for commons?

larryallen73 · June 10, 2009 3:33AM

Can you really make money grading the 86 Topps BB?

In total NO you can't make any money in my opinion. It's too hard to get 10's and they don't sell for enough of a premium to pay for all the others that are not 10's. I, however, enjoy getting 10's so keep on trying. I won't bother doing that anymore though. Spending money to get a bunch of worthless cards is not so smart. Time to stop the PSA cycle. I have my 12 card sub about to be sent in from when I last renewed but I think that will be it. Just not worth it.

SidePocket · June 10, 2009 5:38AM

That's kind of what I figured. Nothing like an 86 Topps PSA 8 to Chuck Tanner to make you think about decluttering.

lsutigers1973 · June 10, 2009 5:42AM

You can theoretically make money subbing 1986 Topps. You just have to be absolutely sure they are at worst 9's and you have to know exactly what to look for. It was really profittable when there was a lot of competition for the Mets players in PSA 10 and the Nolan Ryan. Both have cooled off dramatically.

larryallen73 · June 10, 2009 7:21AM

That's kind of what I figured. Nothing like an 86 Topps PSA 8 to Chuck Tanner to make you think about decluttering.

Several of the cards will be going straight to Goodwill!

Another disappointing sub

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