Factory roller seal on wax packs
proofer2
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I don't understand something. I've heard from you folks and read, that a good way to tell a good wax pack is by the existence of a "factory roller seal". Why couldn't this technique be used by a forger as well?
Rick
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Rick
In theory, I suppose it could if the resealer had access to the hot wax and a roller...but the original roller marks are very hard to match up again once the pack has been opened, and most resealers assume that their buyers are not that savvy or experienced, and judging by all the positive FB these dirtbags get, I suppose they are right..
Edit: The corner folds are also very difficult to duplicate, so even if the resealer resealed the pack with a roller and hot wax, those corner folds usually give the pack away as a bogus one, too..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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I think that is the correct advice.
But, I have no reservations about buying unslabbed packs from BBCE.
I don't know how many errors they make, but I do feel confident that
they would NEVER knowingly sell a tampered pack.
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I think that is the correct advice.
But, I have no reservations about buying unslabbed packs from BBCE.
I don't know how many errors they make, but I do feel confident that
they would NEVER knowingly sell a tampered pack.
I'd agree with that assessment, though there are a number of fellow collectors I've dealt with over the years in whose product I have total confidence in, even more so than BBCE in some cases...Steve is top notch without question, but as you can see from the 1980s group rip thread, resealed product even slips by him on occasion.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Be very wary of both raw and GAI slabbed full wax boxes as well. Steve Hart recently described in an article how he purchased a GAI slabbed 1986 Fleer basketball wax box only to open the box and find that (every) pack had been resealed.
Just remember one simple rule: the more valuable a raw wax pack is--the better the chance it has either been resealed or "homemade".
One further note with regard to "roller marks or striations". Just because roller marks or striations are visible does not in any way guarantee the pack to be legit. Resealers will open the pack and then reseal the pack by strategically applying heat or placing an adhesive on the "underside" of overlaping flap whereby not disturbing the roller marks. But to successfully do this and still maintain a "perfectly matching " horizontal run of striations is very difficult and takes much diligence, experience and determination.
But unfortunately there are those out there who are quite good at this as evidenced by Steve Hart's admission that even he, with 20+ years experience at viewing unopened material, is fooled from time to time.
<< <i> I'm with you, I would never buy raw stuff on Ebay. I would guess that greater than 50% of it is crap... >>
Your comment is sad but true. To bad ebay cares more for the scammer power sellers than honest sellers like Niel (thedutymon).
Steve Hart interview