Do You Have a Favorite Player....
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In another thread there was a plea for Bake McBride cards and Helio presented his reason why he liked this player. This got me thinking about players I like that would not get 'star' attention but that are definitely better than average career players. Here’s someone that I think may have flown under the radar screen for 15 seasons and a favorite of mine since he played a lot of his career with the Dodgers. I’m not saying he belongs in the HOF or anything – just a little comparison with his team-mate Steve Garvey.
Garvey Guerrero
BA 294 300
HRs 272 215
OBP 329 370
SLG 446 480
Fld% 994 977
Garvey has way more accolades, awards, etc. but if you were not a Dodger fan and don't know of Pedro's career, would you believe he had these kind of stats and a lifetime 300 hitter to boot.
Anyone else have a player they would like to share that should not be forgotten?
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Mike
Garvey Guerrero
BA 294 300
HRs 272 215
OBP 329 370
SLG 446 480
Fld% 994 977
Garvey has way more accolades, awards, etc. but if you were not a Dodger fan and don't know of Pedro's career, would you believe he had these kind of stats and a lifetime 300 hitter to boot.
Anyone else have a player they would like to share that should not be forgotten?
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Mike
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The best five starting pitchers (IMO) in the NL from 1963 through 1966:
1. Sandy Koufax (97-27, 1.86 ERA, 1228 K's, 31 shutouts)
2. Juan Marichal (93-35, 2.31, 916, 23)
3. The Forgotten Man (74-34, 2.70, 939, 18)
4. Bob Gibson (78-45, 2.97, 944, 15)
5. Don Drysdale (73-61, 2.73, 875, 18)
Of course, the time frame was selected to make this guy look good - and I'm not saying he belongs with this group over his whole career - but how many players can you place in company like that, even for only four years, that nobody's ever heard of (nobody under 40 anyway)? The Forgotten Man is Jim Maloney of the Reds; if you shift the time frame a little you can make similar comparisons with his forgotten Pittsburgh counterpart Bob Veale.
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I have to say that I loved the discussion of Bake McBride on the other thread, I was also a big fan of him and Garry Maddox.
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Steve
Without a plethora of details, here's a few topline comparisons:
Guidry - 14 Years..170 Wins, 91 Losses, .651 Win%
Koufax - 12 Years..165 Wins, 87 Losses, .655 Win%
Guidry - 1 Cy Young, 5 Gold Gloves, 2 AL ERA , 2 AL Wins
Koufax - 3 Cy Young, 5 NL ERA, 3 NL Wins, 1 MVP
He's not Koufax in his 5 years of dominance, but IMO under appreciated none the less. Regards.
Jim Maloney was one of my favorite pitchers when I was a kid and I always liked the '66 card of him.
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<< <i>As far as my favorite under appreciated player...it is Ron Guidry, pitcher, New York Yankees. "Louisiana Lightning" >>
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Great post and analysis! I'm with you - as a yankee fan in the late 70's, Guidry was a great pitcher who packed a lot of power into a very small frame - kind of like Pedro. Definitely overlooked as a player. And, signed this 3x5 for free! Thanx.
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Pedro played for 15 seasons; 11 with the Dodgers and then St. Louis I believe
Mike
As a sidenote, he claims to be one of the stupidest players in MLB history.
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<< <i>Another one I always liked was Bill Buckner. Of course he is only remembered for one play. >>
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