Are PSA 9's worth re-submitting?

akuracy503 · May 10, 2009 8:31AM

I am getting prepared to start a CU membership and submit some cards and thought about resubmitting a few PSA 9's I have in my personal collection.

Traditionally are PSA 9's not worth the risk of bumping to a higher grade?

Obviously the room to move becomes exponentially higher when the grade is lower, I hope those experienced can shed some good feedback.

storm888 · May 10, 2009 8:37AM

If they look like 10s, it could be worth try.

If they seem marginal, prolly not a good play.

WinPitcher · May 10, 2009 8:40AM

Are we talking about modern cards or vintage?

The answer depends on this fact.

Steve

Rogermnj · May 10, 2009 8:49AM

a card worth $8 in 9 and $20 in 10 is obviously not worth it.
cards that are $30-60 in 9 and $500-$1000 in 10 are the cards that become good candidates.

akuracy503 · May 10, 2009 9:18AM

Most of the cards I have in mind have anywhere from $200-$400 difference between a 9 or 10.

'83 topps/donruss, '84 donruss, '85 topps are the majority.

I have more confidence in the Donruss make of cards but then again I don't see what seperates these from a Gem Mint status.

Tough 9's.

stevek · May 10, 2009 9:30AM

Post some scans if ya want some "expert" opinions from here, although sometimes it can be tough to tell a high end 9 to a potential 10 from a scan, even with card in hand it can be tough. However it's fairly easy to know a low end 9 that has basically no chance at a 10.

akuracy503 · May 10, 2009 9:39AM

The PSA 9 candidates I have in mind are near impossible for me to tell by reviewing in hand.
On the other spectrum I can pick out those low end 9's.

I'm still trying to understand what qualifies for a gem mint 10 or high end 9.

stevek · May 10, 2009 9:42AM

<< <i>The PSA 9 candidates I have in mind are near impossible for me to tell by reviewing in hand.
On the other spectrum I can pick out those low end 9's.

I'm still trying to understand what qualifies for a gem mint 10 or high end 9. >>

could be not much because there are no 9.5's

minnesotahusker · May 10, 2009 2:06PM

I would say yes. I submitted a 1983 Topps Tony Gwynn earlier this year. I received a 9. I sold it on ebay for $30. Less than two weeks later, the winning bidder had resubmitted the card and it is now a PSA 10. Freaking unbelievable. Why couldn't it get a 10 when I submitted it? Must have been a big name submitter who won it.

akuracy503 · May 10, 2009 2:21PM

<< <i>I would say yes. I submitted a 1983 Topps Tony Gwynn earlier this year. I received a 9. I sold it on ebay for $30. Less than two weeks later, the winning bidder had resubmitted the card and it is now a PSA 10. Freaking unbelievable. Why couldn't it get a 10 when I submitted it? Must have been a big name submitter who won it. >>

This is exactly the reason why I try not to buy into the hype of a "Gem Mint" priced card, It doesnt affect me most of the time since I collect mostly vintage/pre war cards.

But I do have my beloved 1980's cards that I feel are borderline perfect, therefore a "Gem" stamp gives me that warm and fuzzy feeling.

MULLINS5 · May 10, 2009 2:32PM

If you think so, give it a shot - but don't crack them out of their cases...a 9 can be a 10 and a 10 can be a 9 everything depends on the grader(s). Like someone else said, scan some photos and we can give you our honest opinions.

Patrick

WinPitcher · May 11, 2009 12:36AM

I would say yes. I submitted a 1983 Topps Tony Gwynn earlier this year. I received a 9. I sold it on ebay for $30. Less than two weeks later, the winning bidder had resubmitted the card and it is now a PSA 10. Freaking unbelievable. Why couldn't it get a 10 when I submitted it? Must have been a big name submitter who won it.

Must be? You sold it so you have to know who won it.

Or are you just trashing PSA as usual?

Steve

MrVintage · May 11, 2009 1:05AM

Its worth a try!!! good luck

gumbyfan · May 11, 2009 1:31AM

Assuming that the card looks like a high-end 9 with a shot at a ten...

If you're talking about cracking the card out of the holder and resubmitting the raw card, yes.
If you're talking about sending it in for the review service, no.

JMO.

MULLINS5 · May 11, 2009 3:27AM

<< <i>Assuming that the card looks like a high-end 9 with a shot at a ten...

If you're talking about cracking the card out of the holder and resubmitting the raw card, yes.
If you're talking about sending it in for the review service, no.

JMO. >>

I carefully cracked a PSA 9 once hoping for a 10 and it came back an 8...mad, I crushed the case, submitted it again and got a 9. I don't think PSA goes down on grades sent in through their review service, so at least his cards would stay at 9 if he did not crack it out.

minnesotahusker · May 11, 2009 4:33AM

<< <i>Must be? You sold it so you have to know who won it.

Or are you just trashing PSA as usual?

Steve >>

I guess if you think I'm trashing PSA than I guess that's your opinion. I didn't know I "usually" do that.

I didn't recognize the name of the buyer of the card, so didn't know if it's a big name or not.

WinPitcher · May 11, 2009 5:38AM

Then why say:

MUST BE?

And yes I have seen you bash at least 4 times now.

It is more FACT, then opinion.

Steve

DavidPuddy · May 11, 2009 5:38AM

I say yes. If you believe the card is a 10 and you're willing to crack it our and take a possible lower grade or an "Evidence of Trimming", then do it.
I just had some good luck with a crack out 9. See this thread

You just never know what card will grade a 10. Check this one out.

No, it's not mine, nor is it my auction.

WinPitcher · May 11, 2009 5:41AM

Yikes. I'd pass on that one.

Must have been one of the big submitters cards.

(eyeroll)

Steve

minnesotahusker · May 11, 2009 6:13AM

HAD to have been.

akuracy503 · May 11, 2009 8:14AM

The whole conspiracy behind big hitters vs. the average joe submitter is non relevant.
No matter how much we gather "facts" or complain it's a null point.

On that note I am shooting for a "Gem Mint" slab for my own enjoyment, like I said traditionally I would not get caught up in the "Gem Mint" vs "Mint" qualification and I think it's ridiculous how much money is on the line being that it's a subjective grade.

I'll take my chances on submitting 9's all day long, confident that the there is a chance 1 out of 10 will get a nice upgrade and vice versa.

Thanks to those who left the constructive feedback.

WinPitcher · May 11, 2009 8:28AM

I guess that is what I'd do. I'd take what I felt was the best 9's, check the gaps in prices
if the gap was worth it I'd then re submit them raw. I'd have to be almost certain though
that they were the cream of the crop as I would hate for some to come back 7 and 8's.

I guess it would be a numbers game.

I've never re subbed a card yet, it gets one shot in the grading room.

(not counting MC etc)

Steve

Are PSA 9's worth re-submitting?

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