"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Yeah, that oversized scan really accentuates any flaws. With a normal sized scan I'm sure the card would look okay to most buyers. It might look better in person too.
I've seen 9's that looked much worse than this Ryan.
<< <i>The real point is if you don't like it pass on it. >>
Will do. Like I said, I already have an 8 that looks better.
<< <i>Whining about here does nothing. >>
Maybe... and I'm reaching here.... just maybe PSA will realize that many of us notice the obvious favoritism given to high volume submitters... and just maybe they will realize how greatly the resulting vast inconsistency negatively effects the collector confidence in PSA grades, and maybe... just maybe, PSA will have the fore site to see how devastating it would be for them should the collector community lose that confidence.
I have about 800 PSA cards, and I would hate to see my collection lose the majority of it's value because the community lost it's faith in PSA.
Yes, I recently have seen a PSA 9 66 Philly card that looked like a low 8 at best. Bidders of course got that card up to a hundred or so. I guess PSa graders do make mistakes, especially when you are dealing with a thousand card order that needs to get done before you go home on a friday.
Maybe... and I'm reaching here.... just maybe PSA will realize that many of us notice the obvious favoritism given to high volume submitters... and just maybe they will realize how greatly the resulting vast inconsistency negatively effects the collector confidence in PSA grades, and maybe... just maybe, PSA will have the fore site to see how devastating it would be for them should the collector community lose that confidence.
Maybe....and I too am reaching here...just maybe you should switch to another grading company.
Maybe....and I too am reaching here...just maybe you should switch to another grading company.
It is obvious that you are unhappy with PSA.
Steve >>
I bet that you'd find complaints about PSA somewhere in your own 20,000+ posts. If PSA keeps informed on the opinions of the collecting community then perhaps pointing out an overgraded card can bring about positive change.
"...If PSA keeps informed on the opinions of the collecting community then perhaps pointing out an overgraded card can bring about positive change...."
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I tend to agree with that notion.
I think PSA does too.
The "problem" with applying that notion here, in my view, is that the subject card is not really "overgraded."
When the small EBAY scan is zoomed in with the magnifying glass on IE, there is really nothing wrong with the card........except for the lack of eye appeal due to the centering.
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<< <i>When the small EBAY scan is zoomed in with the magnifying glass on IE, there is really nothing wrong with the card........except for the lack of eye appeal due to the centering. >>
It depends on which version of the eBay page eBay is showing you. Here is the actual full size scan provided by the seller:
Those lower corners have no business in a PSA 9 holder. I have no doubt that PSA put this card in a PSA 9 holder, and I am not accusing the seller of any wrong doings. I have actually bought from this seller numerous times, and have always all positive things to say about them.
My point is: Had I subbed this card, I would have got a 7... maybe an 8 on a good day.
You probably would, what you won't find is me worrying regarding my investment yet at the same time creating a thread regarding a supposed over graded card.
Seems to me that it would be smarter not to draw attention then.
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The scan isn't great, but that's why I request larger scans for every card I buy. The 2 lower corners look suspect.
Brian
Steve
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Take a look at his feedback and cards he has recently sold. A 58 Spahn appears to be
a dog yet the buyer (METS71) raved about it.
I dunno, the scan blows, color blows, all 4 corners look rounded.
Steve
Puddy
CDsNuts, 1/9/15
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Yup.
Change the zoom level on the small picture and the card looks
totally different.
About like a low-end 9, on a lucky day.
I've seen 9's that looked much worse than this Ryan.
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does that answer the real question.
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Whining about here does nothing.
Steve
<< <i>The real point is if you don't like it pass on it. >>
Will do. Like I said, I already have an 8 that looks better.
<< <i>Whining about here does nothing. >>
Maybe... and I'm reaching here.... just maybe PSA will realize that many of us notice the obvious favoritism given to high volume submitters... and just maybe they will realize how greatly the resulting vast inconsistency negatively effects the collector confidence in PSA grades, and maybe... just maybe, PSA will have the fore site to see how devastating it would be for them should the collector community lose that confidence.
I have about 800 PSA cards, and I would hate to see my collection lose the majority of it's value because the community lost it's faith in PSA.
Maybe... and I'm reaching here.... just maybe PSA will realize that many of us notice the obvious favoritism given to high volume submitters... and just maybe they will realize how greatly the resulting vast inconsistency negatively effects the collector confidence in PSA grades, and maybe... just maybe, PSA will have the fore site to see how devastating it would be for them should the collector community lose that confidence.
Maybe....and I too am reaching here...just maybe you should switch to another grading company.
It is obvious that you are unhappy with PSA.
Steve
Maybe....and I too am reaching here...just maybe you should switch to another grading company.
It is obvious that you are unhappy with PSA.
Steve >>
I bet that you'd find complaints about PSA somewhere in your own 20,000+ posts.
If PSA keeps informed on the opinions of the collecting community then perhaps pointing out an overgraded card can bring about positive change.
////////////////////////////
I tend to agree with that notion.
I think PSA does too.
The "problem" with applying that notion here, in my view, is that the
subject card is not really "overgraded."
When the small EBAY scan is zoomed in with the magnifying glass
on IE, there is really nothing wrong with the card........except for
the lack of eye appeal due to the centering.
<< <i>When the small EBAY scan is zoomed in with the magnifying glass
on IE, there is really nothing wrong with the card........except for
the lack of eye appeal due to the centering. >>
It depends on which version of the eBay page eBay is showing you. Here is the actual full size scan provided by the seller:
Those lower corners have no business in a PSA 9 holder. I have no doubt that PSA put this card in a PSA 9 holder, and I am not accusing the seller of any wrong doings. I have actually bought from this seller numerous times, and have always all positive things to say about them.
My point is: Had I subbed this card, I would have got a 7... maybe an 8 on a good day.
yet at the same time creating a thread regarding a supposed over graded card.
Seems to me that it would be smarter not to draw attention then.
But that is just me.
Steve
Surely anyone can find an over graded card on ebay.
It is nothing new fellows.
PSA is not going to change its standards because some person here
complains about a card.
Is it possible that the card in hand is better then the scan?
And for the person that claims 4sc would get a 9 and he a 6 can you prove that?
Or is that just opinion?
Steve