Can you request no qualifiers?

CDsNuts · March 3, 2005 9:43AM

When subitting cards to PSA, can you request that no qualifiers be used? Someone told me this is possible and I had not known about it. If so, where do you indicate your request?

Lee

CADILLACN97 · March 3, 2005 9:56AM

I have heard that also, and even tried it with a submission a while back. I had 2 or so come back with qualifiers, so i have not done it since. I figured it wasn't true, or either they ignored it (big, bold letters on the submission form). However, i still see this being said, so i don't know. Maybe calling PSA and asking them would be the best bet, and ask how to go about it. It didn't work for me though.

E

fsjeter · March 3, 2005 10:03AM

There used to be a box you could check on the old submission forms but I don't think you can do it anymore.

Scott

Allen · March 3, 2005 10:05AM

Someone once told me you could send in a qualified card and they would regrade it but it would drop 2 points.

Onlypsahockey · March 3, 2005 10:05AM

I asked the same question here about a week ago and numerous members stated they write "no qualifiers" across the top of every submission form. So I did on my current submission. I'll let you know what happens. PSA got it yesterday and it's a 15 day turnaround guaranteed.

Also I was reminded that an OC 9 with a no qualifiers request could end up a straight 6, 7 or 8 depending on the degree of the OC. So you have to keep that in mind. I myself submit for my registry sets so I definitely would prefer a straight grade over a qualifier.

Good luck, Bob

pandrews · March 3, 2005 10:13AM

yes.. i always write "NO QUALIFIERS PLEASE" at the top of the form.. it works..

Fabfrank · March 4, 2005 2:42AM

That's correct. Write "No Qualifiers" boldly on the submission form. Also, there is a misconception that having "NQ" will automatically drop a card 2 grades. Thus a 9OC will become a straight 7. That is just for Registry purposes and the sets weighting. A 9OC can be an unqualified 8.

larryallen73 · March 4, 2005 2:47AM

I have been considering which is better in the re-sale market. I know I often hesitate to buy when I see an 8 or a 9, with no qualifiers, but off center since I know that a qualifier typically drops you two price guide levels in value and thus maybe the card is really only "worth" that of a 6 or a 7. For example, I have a '59 Mantle which is an 8OC. I have wondered if cracking and re-submitting may get it a straight 7. Would a 7, but obviously off-center, be worth more than an 8OC on Ebay?

Axtell · March 4, 2005 3:14AM

I have an Elway rookie that came back as an 9OC. You are saying I can resubmit, request no qualifiers, and it will come back an 8?

Fabfrank · March 4, 2005 3:22AM

I have an Elway rookie that came back as an 9OC. You are saying I can resubmit, request no qualifiers, and it will come back an 8?
It might come back an 8. What I'm saying is that the perception is a 9OC will ALWAYS equate to a PSA 7, and that's not true

gregm13 · March 4, 2005 3:24AM

I always request "No Qualifers" when making a submission. As for resubmitting cards w/ qualifiers, I recently broke two out and resubmitted. The 1975 Topps Dan Fouts was a PSA 9 (PD) and came back a PSA 7. The 1984 Topps Elway was also a PSA 9 (PD) and came back a PSA 8. Both cards had some "snowing" on the front and the Fouts was worse than the Elway. I was happy /w the grades - even though I would have preferred a straight 8 on the Fouts.

Regards,

Greg M.

A761506 · March 4, 2005 3:41AM

Several different things need to be pointed out about a qualifier...

I always request no qualifiers on every order, however, occasionally, I will receive a qualifed card where the qualifier is for a stain (ST).

The most common qualifier, the OC, is only given when the card meets the other criteria of a particular grading range, but the centering is below the minimum standards. If I request no qualifiers and send in a card that is centered 75/25, the highest grade I could possibly receive on that card is a 7, because 75/25 is the minimum standard for centering for a PSA 7. Now, if you have a 9 (OC) and cracked it out and resubmitted it with no qualifiers requested, knowing that the corners and edges and surface are 9 quality, the unqualified grade will be based entirely on the centering. If the card was centered 65/35 to 70/30 at the worst point, then the card would be a PSA 8. If the centering was within 70/30 to 75/25, it would be a PSA 7. If it was centered 75/25 to 80/20, the highest unqualified grade it could get is a PSA 6. And if it was way off center, but not a miscut, and centered worse than 80/20, then the highest grade the card would get is a PSA 5. Some cards that are way off center like that are much better off with the qualifer, while others (the majority in my opinion) are better off in the unqualifed grade.

The dropping of 2 grades is purely for registry purposes. It really comes down to buying the card in the holder when you're buying a qualified card. I've purchased some 8 and 9 OC cards that I thought were very marginal when it came to the offf-centering, and was able to buy them for the price of a card graded 2 grades below, but then cracked them and submitted asking for no qualifers, and the 9 OC became and 8, and the 8 OC became a 7, but this is due to the fact that I knew what I was buying prior to buying it, and I knew what the centering measured and the grade I would get from PSA based on that centering.

jeffcbay · April 29, 2009 6:02AM

If you already shipped your package to PSA (it's scheduled to arrive there tomorrow) can you still call and request your submission to have No Qualifiers? I shipped it yesterday and forgot to write "No Qualifiers Please" on the form. Has anyone ever called them and requested it after you shipped it? Thanks for any info you have.

fattymacs · April 29, 2009 6:24AM

Like others have said, I write "No Qualifiers, Please" on the form (after learning you could request this). It is my understanding the grader can still give the qualifier, but it hasn't happened to me.

markj111 · April 29, 2009 6:25AM

I have requested NQ many times; it has worked fine. I once submitted 6 cards with qualifiers, asking that they be dropped 1 grade with NQ. They changed 2; on the other 4 they indicated why they could not. I am still ticked about the 61 Marichal. It was a 9pd, with an extremely faint print line about 3/8 inch long. The card looks better than 90% of the 8s I have seen, but they would not give it an 8.

divecchia · April 29, 2009 7:47AM

<< Several different things need to be pointed out about a qualifier...

I always request no qualifiers on every order, however, occasionally, I will receive a qualifed card where the qualifier is for a stain (ST).

The most common qualifier, the OC, is only given when the card meets the other criteria of a particular grading range, but the centering is below the minimum standards. If I request no qualifiers and send in a card that is centered 75/25, the highest grade I could possibly receive on that card is a 7, because 75/25 is the minimum standard for centering for a PSA 7. Now, if you have a 9 (OC) and cracked it out and resubmitted it with no qualifiers requested, knowing that the corners and edges and surface are 9 quality, the unqualified grade will be based entirely on the centering. If the card was centered 65/35 to 70/30 at the worst point, then the card would be a PSA 8. If the centering was within 70/30 to 75/25, it would be a PSA 7. If it was centered 75/25 to 80/20, the highest unqualified grade it could get is a PSA 6. And if it was way off center, but not a miscut, and centered worse than 80/20, then the highest grade the card would get is a PSA 5. Some cards that are way off center like that are much better off with the qualifer, while others (the majority in my opinion) are better off in the unqualifed grade.

The dropping of 2 grades is purely for registry purposes. It really comes down to buying the card in the holder when you're buying a qualified card. I've purchased some 8 and 9 OC cards that I thought were very marginal when it came to the offf-centering, and was able to buy them for the price of a card graded 2 grades below, but then cracked them and submitted asking for no qualifers, and the 9 OC became and 8, and the 8 OC became a 7, but this is due to the fact that I knew what I was buying prior to buying it, and I knew what the centering measured and the grade I would get from PSA based on that centering. >>

Josh...

Great job explaining the OC qualifier. It answers a few questions that have always bugged me.

Thanks...Donato

lawnmowerman · April 29, 2009 7:51AM

<< When subitting cards to PSA, can you request that no qualifiers be used? Someone told me this is possible and I had not known about it. If so, where do you indicate your request?

Lee >>

Go away newb

WinPitcher · April 29, 2009 8:15AM

Jeff

To answer your question I don't know. Once at a show that happened to me, I went back an hr later and they said no.

Give them a call and see.

Sorry.

Steve

CDsNuts · April 29, 2009 8:49AM

I have grown a lot as a person since starting this thread.

Elemenopeo · April 29, 2009 8:53AM

I've actually regressed as a person since Lee started this thread.

BunchOBull · April 29, 2009 8:57AM

<< I've actually regressed as a person since Lee started this thread. >>

I've regressed since reading it.

nightcrawler · April 29, 2009 1:00PM

I digress.

itzagoner · April 29, 2009 1:04PM

i dig redheads.

lawnmowerman · April 29, 2009 1:21PM

<< i dig redheads. >>

I agree!!

gumbyfan · April 29, 2009 1:33PM

<< i dig redheads. >>

grote15 · April 29, 2009 2:13PM

I knew something was amiss here when I read a serious question posed by Lee...

Didn't notice the '05 date till the Axtell post, LOL...

On a serious note, I have found that a PSA 9 OC will often command a higher premium than a straight PSA 7, if in fact the penalty is two full grades wo the qualifier..

lawnmowerman · April 29, 2009 2:39PM

Back on topic;

Redheads are really hot!

Can you request no qualifiers?

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