Water Stains

I posed this question in a thread about a '52 Mays today, but didn't get a response, so I thought it deserved it's own thread. Here was my question...........
I may be getting into an ethical matter here, but I've always heard that removing water stains can be quite difficult. I've personally never even attempted this but two questions:
1. What is the procedure for removing water stains (just a water soaking procedure - or other chemicals required)
2. Is it ethical to alter a cards in this manner?
As I've stated before, I've never even tried to soak a card before, but personally don't have a real big issue if others do this. I think if you are removing something from the card that was not originally there, you aren't really altering the card. I know this can be a slippery slope, just my opinion. I should also note that I do have some old cards that have pretty bad water damage. I've always been tempted to try to remove them, but have never had the gonads, fearing I would ruin the cards (these cards would stay in my personal collection)
I may be getting into an ethical matter here, but I've always heard that removing water stains can be quite difficult. I've personally never even attempted this but two questions:
1. What is the procedure for removing water stains (just a water soaking procedure - or other chemicals required)
2. Is it ethical to alter a cards in this manner?
As I've stated before, I've never even tried to soak a card before, but personally don't have a real big issue if others do this. I think if you are removing something from the card that was not originally there, you aren't really altering the card. I know this can be a slippery slope, just my opinion. I should also note that I do have some old cards that have pretty bad water damage. I've always been tempted to try to remove them, but have never had the gonads, fearing I would ruin the cards (these cards would stay in my personal collection)
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Soak the card in clean water, in a glass dish.
Place the card on a clean sheet of white paper that you
place on a flat portable surface; a smooth wood cutting
board is good.
Place the item in BRIGHT sunlight. Keep the card wet while
the stain vanishes.
It should happen pretty quick.
After the stain is gone, use a bunch of phone books to
press the wet card until it dries out.
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If there is other carp in the "water stain," you may need some
solvents or peroxide.
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My only concern is for cards exposed to solvents and the longterm effects those solvents might have, especially when exposed to temperature change and/or sunlight.
do the trick . Good luck if you try it . It would be kinda scary doing that to an expensive card .
Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL
But if you go to sell the card you might want to disclose the fact it has been altered, ethically speaking.
Thanks in advance
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Yup.
<< <i>Thanks for all the input. One other question, when you soak the card in water, how long should you let it soak? I'm assuming you want to let the card get completely saturated?
Thanks in advance >>
I think this topic should not be discussed any further. You are opening the gates for scammers, who could use this information to alter cards.
While opinions/eithics differ if "soaking" is altering a card or not, TPG have said it is. PSA and SGC will reject and deem it ALTERED STOCK if they find evidence of soaking.
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<< <i>Thanks for all the input. One other question, when you soak the card in water, how long should you let it soak? I'm assuming you want to let the card get completely saturated?
Thanks in advance >>
I think this topic should not be discussed any further. You are opening the gates for scammers, who could use this information to alter cards.
While opinions/eithics differ if "soaking" is altering a card or not, TPG have said it is. PSA and SGC will reject and deem it ALTERED STOCK if they find evidence of soaking. >>
Busted. Sorry, I've just noticed on the NET 54 boards, they've discussed similar practices in detail, so I didn't think it was a big deal. I think I have all the info I need now anyway.
"Common sense is the best distributed commodity in the world, for every man is convinced that he is well supplied with it"
For gods sakes man, don't soak the cards.