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Water Stains

I posed this question in a thread about a '52 Mays today, but didn't get a response, so I thought it deserved it's own thread. Here was my question...........

I may be getting into an ethical matter here, but I've always heard that removing water stains can be quite difficult. I've personally never even attempted this but two questions:

1. What is the procedure for removing water stains (just a water soaking procedure - or other chemicals required)

2. Is it ethical to alter a cards in this manner?

As I've stated before, I've never even tried to soak a card before, but personally don't have a real big issue if others do this. I think if you are removing something from the card that was not originally there, you aren't really altering the card. I know this can be a slippery slope, just my opinion. I should also note that I do have some old cards that have pretty bad water damage. I've always been tempted to try to remove them, but have never had the gonads, fearing I would ruin the cards (these cards would stay in my personal collection)
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭


    Soak the card in clean water, in a glass dish.

    Place the card on a clean sheet of white paper that you
    place on a flat portable surface; a smooth wood cutting
    board is good.

    Place the item in BRIGHT sunlight. Keep the card wet while
    the stain vanishes.

    It should happen pretty quick.

    After the stain is gone, use a bunch of phone books to
    press the wet card until it dries out.



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    If there is other carp in the "water stain," you may need some
    solvents or peroxide.





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  • bbcemporiumbbcemporium Posts: 684 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Storm
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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    While I've never done it because I'm too chicken, this is actually one process that doesn't bother me too much if the only solution being used is water...peroxide should be okay too.

    My only concern is for cards exposed to solvents and the longterm effects those solvents might have, especially when exposed to temperature change and/or sunlight.
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  • In my opinion , I would not consider that altering . To me altering is recoloring or rebacking a card . What Storm said should
    do the trick . Good luck if you try it . It would be kinda scary doing that to an expensive card .
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  • NowPanicNowPanic Posts: 128 ✭✭
    My opinion is if you are keeping the card for your collection, no big deal, who cares.
    But if you go to sell the card you might want to disclose the fact it has been altered, ethically speaking.
  • bbcemporiumbbcemporium Posts: 684 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the input. One other question, when you soak the card in water, how long should you let it soak? I'm assuming you want to let the card get completely saturated?
    Thanks in advance
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "...I'm assuming you want to let the card get completely saturated?.."

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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for all the input. One other question, when you soak the card in water, how long should you let it soak? I'm assuming you want to let the card get completely saturated?
    Thanks in advance >>



    I think this topic should not be discussed any further. You are opening the gates for scammers, who could use this information to alter cards.

    While opinions/eithics differ if "soaking" is altering a card or not, TPG have said it is. PSA and SGC will reject and deem it ALTERED STOCK if they find evidence of soaking.
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  • bbcemporiumbbcemporium Posts: 684 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Thanks for all the input. One other question, when you soak the card in water, how long should you let it soak? I'm assuming you want to let the card get completely saturated?
    Thanks in advance >>



    I think this topic should not be discussed any further. You are opening the gates for scammers, who could use this information to alter cards.

    While opinions/eithics differ if "soaking" is altering a card or not, TPG have said it is. PSA and SGC will reject and deem it ALTERED STOCK if they find evidence of soaking. >>



    Busted. Sorry, I've just noticed on the NET 54 boards, they've discussed similar practices in detail, so I didn't think it was a big deal. I think I have all the info I need now anyway.
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  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    I have a few cards with stains. I don't let them or any other defect bother me.


    For gods sakes man, don't soak the cards. image
  • DoctorKDoctorK Posts: 868 ✭✭✭
    I believe disclosure is what is important if one were to ever sell the cards. The act itself is up to the individual.
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