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British Coins and medals question.

I have been recently gaining an admiration for Queen Victoria, King George, etc. coins and medals/commems. Since I am new to them, I'm thinking about getting a good book before spending any significant money.

Is "Coins of England and the United Kingdom" by Spinks (or is it Seaby's?) the best one for a British coin newbie or some other book? If so, to save money, would a cheaper, used version from the late 1990's or early 21st century pretty much meet my info. needs (apart from up-to-date prices of course)?

Also, does the Spinks book include English medals and commemoratives as well as coins?
Thanks.
I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
- Jim

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  • harashaharasha Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It may no longer be published, but the best standard book for English coins may be Coincraft's Standard Catalogue.

    For British medals, good starter books are Collecting Modern Commemorative Medals by Joseph Edmundson and The Commemorative Medal by Howard W. A. Linecar.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coincraft was last published in 2000 or so... I think it is helpful because it does contain more variety information. If you are semi-serious, I would own both Spink and Coincraft

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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    You can pick up a previous years copy (2005 to 2007) of Spink for around $20. Check eBay for Coincraft. I bought a new condition copy there about 2-3 years ago. Spink does not contain medals info.

    Eimer is another author with a medals book. Here is Eimer's website.


    And finally, congrats on your Victoria choice. image

  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    British Historical Medals is another source image
  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508
    British Silver Coinage since 1816, by Peter Davies is another valuable resouce. Out of print, but a great book
  • Spink's Coins of England & the United Kingdom is published annually like Krause is.

    Coincraft was planned to be reissued,but online.As to what has happened,I don't know.

    You can go here & here for further information.

    Aidan.
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the replies. Looks like I have some checking around to do. image
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You can pick up a previous years copy (2005 to 2007) of Spink for around $20. Check eBay for Coincraft. I bought a new condition copy there about 2-3 years ago. Spink does not contain medals info.

    Eimer is another author with a medals book. Here is Eimer's website.


    And finally, congrats on your Victoria choice. image >>



    Thanks. Actually the coin that started my interest in UK coins was that beautiful 1847 Gothic Crown! I only wish that I could afford one of those. image
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • Jim,
    I reckon that you should also join up here,here,& here as well.

    Aidan.
  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭
    Spink is the Bible on British coins and I would say that is the book to buy first. After that (if you want to go deeper) I would suggest finding a copy of Coincraft and perhaps "English Silver Coinage From 1649."
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  • Michael,
    Coincraft was last published in 1999,& is unlikely to be republished & updated.

    Spink's catalogue is the way to go.

    Krause only lists coins from 1601 onwards.

    Aidan.
  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭
    True that Coincraft is out of print, but I think it is a good enough reference to warrant finding a used copy.
    If you are in the Western North Carolina area, please consider visiting our coin shop:

    WNC Coins, LLC
    1987-C Hendersonville Road
    Asheville, NC 28803


    wnccoins.com
  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    I refer to my Coincraft much more often than my Spinks.
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    19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
  • I reckon that you should all join the British Coins Group as well.

    Aidan.
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Aidan and everyone! image
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is "Coins of England and the United Kingdom" by Spinks (or is it Seaby's?)....

    Jim - I just came across the 1994 edition while cleaning up my library. If you PM me your address, I'll send it to you gratis.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have already ordered a used copy Andy, but do appreciate your kind offer! image
    PM sent.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • Some books on Medals for consideration:


    Spinks Catalogue
    of
    British Commemorative Medals
    1558 to the Present Day
    With Valuations
    Daniel Fearon
    1984
    Webb and Bower
    9 Colleton Crescent
    Exeter Devon EX2 4BY

    ISBN 0 86350 029 3

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    Commemorative Medals
    J R S Whiting
    1972
    David and Charles Ltd
    South Devon House
    Newton Abbot, Devon

    ISBN 0 7153 5535 X

    image

    2000 Years of British Coins and Medals
    John Kent
    1978
    British Museum Publications Ltd
    Bedford Square
    London

    ISBN 0 7141 0842 1

    image
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the medals books tips, Cruzi. Which one would you recommend for an English coin novice (like yours truly) who would just like to get an overall, but fairly comprehensive grasp on the area of say, 18th and 19th century UK medals without spending an arm and a leg for a book at first? image

    I just purchased my first "dark side" coin a couple weeks ago. It's an 1897 Victoria Diamond Jubilee silver medallion with beautiful toning. Do you know if it's officially categorized as a medal or a commemorative?

    As I mentioned, I have a used Spinks book coming in the mail soon, but it sounds like there won't be any medals or commems. listed in it, correct?
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • Jim,
    Spink's has never listed medals in 'Coins of England & the United Kingdom'.I haven't been made aware of any new editions to Spink's medal catalogue.

    You should get in touch with Christopher Eimer.

    Aidan.
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have already ordered a used copy Andy, but do appreciate your kind offer!

    In that case, it goes to the first taker...
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks, Aidan. I looked around Eimer's site but his medals books are all sold except for "The Pingo family and medal making."
    He sure has some beautiful medals there though.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • The Spink Medal book has not been reprinted or updated for quite some time but it covers quite a lot of the issues around. There probably isn't that many collectable Medals been issued since 1984 anyway image

    Books may seem expensive but believe me when I say, money spent on a book often pays for itself with knowledge gained very quickly.

    I'll also echo the comments on Coincraft, if you want current prices get a current Spink, if you want an easy to use reference get Coincraft.

    If you want to find a book use AddAll, it searchs all the book sites for you (Amazon, Alibris,Abebooks etc)



  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks, Cruzi.
    Yes, I've been using Addall for a few years now when looking for used books.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
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