Mexico 8 reales of Carolus III....

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• Ricke Posts: 677 ✭

  January 14, 2009 12:42PM

  I don't think it's terribly difficult - but I wouldn't say, for sure, that one has original surfaces though...

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• MrEureka Posts: 24,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 16, 2009 7:31AM

  It's easier to find a cleaned one, but original pieces can be found.
  
  Here's one that I found intriguing.
  
  

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• Doogy Posts: 4,508 ✭

  January 16, 2009 7:53AM

  
  
  that one is probably not "cleaned" as the two main grading services see it, but probably dipped and starting to tone over. i've seen a fair number dipped in slabs from both services, but i don't like the look of them; too un-natural looking. I've also seen a boatload of harshly cleaned/scrubbed ones too that just look bad; but the one that Andy posted is an example of the "look" that I much prefer for these.
  
  

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• coinkat Posts: 23,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 16, 2009 8:03AM

  MrE and Doogy have it right...
  
  I am sure everyone can br relieved that this thread has been spared my wrath

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• MrObvious Posts: 109

  January 16, 2009 8:46AM

  Andy -
  
  Unless I missed something er.... obvious, that coin is either counterfeit or has an altered date. The Mexico City mint stopped making those quite some time prior to 1835.

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• Ricke Posts: 677 ✭

  January 16, 2009 10:54AM

  
  
  << <i>Andy -
  
  Unless I missed something er.... obvious, that coin is either counterfeit or has an altered date. The Mexico City mint stopped making those quite some time prior to 1835. >>
  
  
  
  actually this type was a while before that, but you're correct. I believe that's an 8 over 7, though. That is quite a time span for an overdate though. Very interesting coin.

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• dizzlecc Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭

  January 16, 2009 12:28PM

  I would guess that most above XF would have some type of cleaning or dipping.
  
  I think in the end it all comes down to eye appeal and does it look natural.
  
  

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• sTONER Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭

  January 17, 2009 6:02AM

  

  toner loner

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• TwoKopeiki Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 22, 2009 11:50PM

  
  
  << <i>It's easier to find a cleaned one, but original pieces can be found.
  
  Here's one that I found intriguing.
  
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  Interesting counterfeit, Andy.
  
  I think it's too well executed to be a contemporary. Perhaps end of 19th century, beginning of 20th. The die work is pretty impressive. I'm surprised it went for over $500, however.

  
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