Steve Hart pack interview...

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 30, 2008 11:35PM

and a few quotes from a pretty cool sounding guy. Donovan, I think his name was. But I think there was a minor messup as he used to have a collection of vintage packs.

Sports Collectors Daily

That reminds me. Anyone know how many cards came in 1989 Fleer wax? I have a few wrappers......

brianwintersfan · October 1, 2008 12:22AM

"What’s the biggest horror story you’ve encountered regarding re-sealed packs?"

"I just got in the absolute worst re-sealed box of 1986/87 Fleer basketball that I’ve seen. A three year old with Elmers glue may have been able to do a better job! Unfortunately, the box came to us actually authenticated. This is really sad for our hobby/industry".

Another fubar by GAI I'm assuming

rube26105 · October 1, 2008 1:13AM

anything slabbed gai is a horror story, id just sell it off and hope for the best

neenish · October 1, 2008 1:13AM

I purchased my 1989 Fleer cases from Steve Hart, Dave and Adams and the baseball card kid. Man, I can't wait until they come in....

44Magnum · October 1, 2008 2:00AM

Great article!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · October 1, 2008 2:01AM

<< I purchased my 1989 Fleer cases from Steve Hart, Dave and Adams and the baseball card kid. Man, I can't wait until they come in.... >>

Me too..incoming....
3 1989 Fleer rack cases from sma... on ebay
another from Betty/Bob... on ebay
and winnning another on ebay

Did you win that rack case from BBCKid for like $50 shipped? If so great price but I bet $5 he can decipher what cases have what. The DA..was it a wax case? Or did they have rack for a short time?

lsutigers1973 · October 1, 2008 2:15AM

<< Did you win that rack case from BBCKid for like $50 shipped? >>

That was me. I paid with Paypal using a CC just in case it is not truly unopened and unsearched.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · October 1, 2008 2:16AM

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<< Did you win that rack case from BBCKid for like $50 shipped? >>

That was me. I paid with Paypal using a CC just in case it is not truly unopened and unsearched. >>

I'm pretty sure it wont be opened.

lsutigers1973 · October 1, 2008 2:25AM

<< I'm pretty sure it wont be opened. >>

If it ever gets here, I will tell you.

54topps · October 1, 2008 3:56AM

Why all of a sudden is there a big demand for the 1989 fleer?

billwaltonsbeard · October 1, 2008 3:59AM

<< Why all of a sudden is there a big demand for the 1989 fleer? >>

Lots of HOF RCs of course.

neenish · October 1, 2008 4:06AM

<< Why all of a sudden is there a big demand for the 1989 fleer? >>

Shhh. don't tell anyone about the high $$$ Bo Jackson cards!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · October 1, 2008 4:36AM

<< Why all of a sudden is there a big demand for the 1989 fleer? >>

Nothing new. The 7 of us have been collecting 1989 Fleer for awhile and with the poor economy and our huge wallets we decided to help others out.

jrinck · October 1, 2008 5:14AM

<< "What’s the biggest horror story you’ve encountered regarding re-sealed packs?"

"I just got in the absolute worst re-sealed box of 1986/87 Fleer basketball that I’ve seen. A three year old with Elmers glue may have been able to do a better job! Unfortunately, the box came to us actually authenticated. This is really sad for our hobby/industry".

Another fubar by GAI I'm assuming >>

The box is authentic. The wrappers are authentic. The cards are authentic. So it's all authentic! Yeah, that's the ticket!

lsutigers1973 · October 1, 2008 5:17AM

<< Why all of a sudden is there a big demand for the 1989 fleer? >>

I have to agree with Donovan's answer. My income has decreased dramatically in the last few months. So instead of buying late 70's Topps boxes from BBCE, I can now only afford to buy the 89 Fleer boxes and cases. Next month I may have to move on to 1990 Donruss or Topps.

jrinck · October 1, 2008 6:03AM

<< 

<< Why all of a sudden is there a big demand for the 1989 fleer? >>

I have to agree with Donovan's answer. My income has decreased dramatically in the last few months. So instead of buying late 70's Topps boxes from BBCE, I can now only afford to buy the 89 Fleer boxes and cases. Next month I may have to move on to 1990 Donruss or Topps.

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SOURING OF ECONOMY LEADS TO SKYROCKETING PRICES FOR WORTHLESS PRODUCT

Jeremy Fleck was used to the finer things in life. Fine, aged wines. A fully-loaded BMW M5. And vintage sportscard memorabilia. "I would buy at least one 1971 Topps baseball pack per week, at $500 a pop. Money wasn't an object. My home value was rising, and the banks were handing me money. I wasn't even working for one six month stretch and got a check for $150,000."

But as soon as the money stopped flowing, so did Jeremy's extravagant tastes. "It got to the point where I was using the loan proceeds to pay the loans back, and when my property stopped going up in value, they wouldn't give me anymore money. I needed to cut back. I drank the wine and sold the car, and assembled most of the cards back into their wrappers and sold 'em on Ebay for one tenth what I paid."

But some urges are harder to quell than others. "But I loved opening those packs of cards. I couldn't get away from that." So Jeremy took advantage of a credit card mailed to him in his dog's name, and went on a new buying spree; only this time, he was a little more subdued. "I could have bought one 1971 Topps pack, or 65,000 1990 Donruss packs. I went for the Donruss. I bought every box and case I could. I spent the entire $3,000 limit on the card and bought about 90% of the entire unopened inventory of Donruss baseball cards from 1990."

Jeremy's buying spree caused concerned family members to seek psychiatric help on his behalf, but when hobbyists started noticing the lack of 1990 Donruss cards on the market, a curious thing happened. "I saw a box go for $10,000! Something I paid for in postage stamps a month earlier was now going for five figures." At that point, Jeremy's family backed off, although a little too late as Jeremy had already disowned them. "Yeah, I was the black sheep of the family. The idiot. The moron. The O.J. Simpson of the family. Now my own mother is hitting on me, looking for a piece of the action."

And what action it is.

Jeremy burned a third of the cards for heat during the previous winter, but is now slowly and methodically selling off the remaining stock. "I release about one box per month. I start the bidding at $5,000 and put a reserve of $20,000. The reserve is usually met within the first five minutes. Life is good."

It certainly is. Jeremy is now back to buying his coveted 1971 Topps again. "I have a contact that has a pretty good and consistent supply. I'd just like to say that Gary is taking pretty good care of me. I haven't quite hit the jackpot with anything he's sent me yet, but I'm confident. I can now afford to be."

Jeremy is not only confident and rich, but looking pretty darn smart right about now.

lsutigers1973 · October 1, 2008 9:56AM

For the naysayers that think 1989 Fleer wax, rack and cello boxes are worthless, how about these results. 6 wax boxes of 89 Fleer delivered for $50. 7 cards from boxes submitted to PSA. With return shipping, grading cost is about $48. Total investment $98. Three of the seven cards have an average of recent eBay sales of $120. Profit already at about $15 after paying shipping, ebay and Paypal fees for only 3 cards. The other 4 cards are all profit if sold. Not to mention, 2 full sets and numerous extras of 3 rookies, 2 of which have numerous variations and varying values and other HOF'ers cards I can put away for my son. Oh yeah, I also had a ton of fun busting them.

Edit: The $120 was not correct. One of the 3 graded has a pop of 17 out of 7,430 graded. Last eBay sale of this card was $98.

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