SGC Holder frame insert?

akuracy503 · September 12, 2008 4:27AM

Any concerns surrounding cards holstered by the SGC framing?

I cracked open a SGC slab the other day to find the black insert is a rubbery plastic piece....
With these cards not precisely aligning with each edge of the frame is there risk of damage from the gaps between card and insert? i.e. due to shaking

fkw · September 12, 2008 7:19AM

Always store high grade cards flat, not upright. Constant banging of card storage boxes or slabs stored upright will slightly dent the card in the pressure points where the insert corner cutout area touches card. Also some very thin cards may slide under the black insert (ie. T200, T222, etc.)

Other than that..... SGC has the best holders, especially when compared to the off size "floater" PSA garbage slabs, where cards can turn and spin inside the slab banging up sharp corners.

TheHun · September 12, 2008 7:26AM

Amen to that ... my Kellogg's cards are floating around the PSA holders like flies in a soup bowl.

SCG keep my babies snug AND framed.

cheers

MeteoriteGuy · September 12, 2008 7:38AM

<< Amen to that ... my Kellogg's cards are floating around the PSA holders like flies in a soup bowl.

SCG keep my babies snug AND framed.

cheers >>

No problem with SCG inserts here. The cases however in general do seem weaker then PSA, which is weaker then BGS. Also, I should note for above....PSA makes Kellogg cases now. Personally, I have no problem with either of the three.

hockeyguy · September 12, 2008 7:56AM

Can i ask then, why do grading companies put smaller sized cards in holders that were not meant for them. We have all seen them, and I'm sure we all know that the corners will get damaged. whats the point ?

akuracy503 · September 12, 2008 8:01AM

I'd hate to say it but don't you think BGS has the safest slab design?
In a sturdy penny sleeve and then slabbed...

Something about seeing anything in contact with my card...framed or whatever makes me feel uncomfortable...but if you all say that SGC material and design is top notch then I believe...

PSA slabs make me the most nervous as they offer a nice gap for the card to juggle around.

I wasn't asking the question based on off size cards but good point.

I was thinking SGC and 1950's topps cards.

hockeyguy · September 12, 2008 8:29AM

<< I'd hate to say it but don't you think BGS has the safest slab design? >>

Why do you HATE to say it ?
It's a good one
Though the sleeve inside ... it's not too clean looking
just a little to rough cut for my taste

With so much money in the grading industry
you would think PSA & BGS would have slabs designed to fit EVERYTHING OUT there
no card should ever look odd in a case
if they dont have the right case ... dont grade them

dizzle · September 12, 2008 8:50AM

Just my opinion but as far as slabs go for protection..

BGS = best by far...

PSA = 2nd as long as we're talking a card that will fit in the holder properly.

SGC = worst imo I don't like the black insert with its sometimes jagged edges snug against the edges of my cards and have personally seen cards where the insert has dug into the edges of cards..

lawnmowerman · September 12, 2008 8:59AM

<< Just my opinion but as far as slabs go for protection..

BGS = best by far...

PSA = 2nd as long as we're talking a card that will fit in the holder properly.

SGC = worst imo I don't like the black insert with its sometimes jagged edges snug against the edges of my cards and have personally seen cards where the insert has dug into the edges of cards.. >>

I agree about BGS being the best but imo PSA is the worst. I like SGC slabs nice smooth surface and the black insert really looks good

hockeyguy · September 12, 2008 9:00AM

I've never cracked open one of my BGS cases
so i'm not sure about something
is the card sealed inside the soft sleeve ?

The sleeve looks like its a 9 pocket page that was cut up
but instead of having the ridge on the sides and bottom
its on the top too

just curious how they do it
i guess i've never really questioned it, til now

anybody crack open a BGS case ?

lawnmowerman · September 12, 2008 9:03AM

<< I've never cracked open one of my BGS cases
so i'm not sure about something
is the card sealed inside the soft sleeve ?

The sleeve looks like its a 9 pocket page that was cut up
but instead of having the ridge on the sides and bottom
its on the top too

just curious how they do it
i guess i've never really questioned it, til now

anybody crack open a BGS case ? >>

Yup, very easy case to crack. The card is sealed up in the plastic sleeve so you don't have to worry about killing the card unless of course you're all thumbs.

You will need to cut the card out of the sleeve once you crack the case.

hockeyguy · September 12, 2008 9:08AM

<< You will need to cut the card out of the sleeve once you crack the case. >>

Thats my question
The sleeve is really sealed on all 4 sides ?
How do they do that SAFELY ?

nam812 · September 12, 2008 9:11AM

To me, BGS putting my card into a soft sleeve is just an unnecessary step that can possibly ruin one of my sharp corners.

hockeyguy · September 12, 2008 9:14AM

<< To me, BGS putting my card into a soft sleeve is just an unnecessary step that can possibly ruin one of my sharp corners. >>

then how would the card stay in place ?

Its not really a penny sleeve
its harder plastic, like a 9 pocket page
the card slides in easier (I THINK), as I've never cracked one

I'm just curious, how they safely seal the card in the sleeve, at all 4 sides
it seems risky, as its close to the edges of the card

lawnmowerman · September 12, 2008 9:19AM

<< 

<< You will need to cut the card out of the sleeve once you crack the case. >>

Thats my question
The sleeve is really sealed on all 4 sides ?
How do they do that SAFELY ? >>

It is not 100% sealed up. There are areas towards the 4 corners that are not sealed. Once you crack the slab and take it out, you will see what I mean.

dizzle · September 12, 2008 9:40AM

<< To me, BGS putting my card into a soft sleeve is just an unnecessary step that can possibly ruin one of my sharp corners. >>

They don't insert the cards into the sleeve like a "normal penny sleeve"

They place the card between 2 sheets of plastic and seal it, not fully but close they leave the corners open.. Not much risk if you ask me..Have you known anybody to have a cards corners damaged from this? I have not.

dfr52 · September 12, 2008 9:51AM

<< Just my opinion but as far as slabs go for protection..

BGS = best by far...

PSA = 2nd as long as we're talking a card that will fit in the holder properly.

SGC = worst imo I don't like the black insert with its sometimes jagged edges snug against the edges of my cards and have personally seen cards where the insert has dug into the edges of cards.. >>

I feel the same way. Beckett's slab really does offer the best protection. PSA's case needs some updating and fixing. While I like how SGC's slab looks I also have a few cards where the inset has caused some wear to the edge.

TheHun · September 12, 2008 9:59AM

Personally, I cannot see paying more money, plus postage, plus insurance ... to fix PSA mistake of slabbing my Kellogg's cards in a fish bowl.

If PSA were really a company which cared, they would offer to fix their mistake.

(I'm not holding my breath - just storing my PSA Kellogg's until I can afford to get them to SCG on a special.)

cheers

dfr52 · September 12, 2008 11:01AM

<< Personally, I cannot see paying more money, plus postage, plus insurance ... to fix PSA mistake of slabbing my Kellogg's cards in a fish bowl.

If PSA were really a company which cared, they would offer to fix their mistake.

(I'm not holding my breath - just storing my PSA Kellogg's until I can afford to get them to SCG on a special.)

cheers >>

Good point. I wish all the grading companies would be willing to fix any mistakes that occured during the slabbing process at their cost.

mickeymantle24 · September 12, 2008 11:03AM

<< 

<< Personally, I cannot see paying more money, plus postage, plus insurance ... to fix PSA mistake of slabbing my Kellogg's cards in a fish bowl.

If PSA were really a company which cared, they would offer to fix their mistake.

(I'm not holding my breath - just storing my PSA Kellogg's until I can afford to get them to SCG on a special.)

cheers >>

Good point. I wish all the grading companies would be willing to fix any mistakes that occured during the slabbing process at their cost. >>

SGC Holder frame insert?

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