How do you identify a resealed wax pack?

jswieton · September 9, 2008 3:50PM

I have noticed a bunch of posts regarding resealed packs and the dangers of buying packs on ebay? My question is what are some clues to look for to help identify a resealed wax pack? When you send in a pack to get graded what kind of things do the pro's look for?

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 9, 2008 11:42PM

Scotch tape, staples etc. If the submiters first name is Gary, that is a Red Flag. lol Just kidding about the tape and staples.

Decided to PM the info.

Please, for the love of wax, no-one mention the one method that is used that is very easy to do.

lsutigers1973 · September 9, 2008 11:47PM

<< Please, for the love of wax, no-one mention the one method that is used that is very easy to do. >>

I second that.

rube26105 · September 10, 2008 12:55AM

staples

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 10, 2008 12:58AM

Roller marks should line up. Thats one you cant fake....right?

rube26105 · September 10, 2008 1:32AM

i forgot about sewing up the back of the packs like the pilgrims did

mtcards · September 10, 2008 3:00AM

Double sided tape along the folds does the trick

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 10, 2008 3:05AM

Q.-

<< My question is what are some clues to look for to help identify a resealed wax pack? >>

A.- It's in a GAI holder. Kidding. I'm kidding.

CDsNuts · September 10, 2008 3:08AM

You look for the little balls........ no wait, that's how you identify a mail plane.

brendanb438 · September 10, 2008 4:02AM

I love how this forum doesn't want to inform those who are somewhat new to purchasing packs about what to really look for. This common method that you guys hint at and seems to be noticiable if you know what you are looking for. I mean if your goal is to keep people out of this part of the hobby I guess not passing along such useful info is a good thing.

cwazzy · September 10, 2008 4:06AM

<< I love how this forum doesn't want to inform those who are somewhat new to purchasing packs about what to really look for. This common method that you guys hint at and seems to be noticiable if you know what you are looking for. I mean if your goal is to keep people out of this part of the hobby I guess not passing along such useful info is a good thing.

>>

Chill my friend. I'm pretty sure they don't want to tell because it may give the few unsavory characters that come to the boards ideas on how to screw over the rest of us.

Chris

CDsNuts · September 10, 2008 4:08AM

brendan- While stating how a resealed wax pack can be identified can be useful to us honest collectors, it can also be used by resealers to better disguise their bogus packs. It's a double-edged sword and most of us would rather not give the pack builders more ammunition.

rube26105 · September 10, 2008 4:09AM

i would stay so far out of this part of the hobby that its not even funny, i wouldnt trust any graded pack period

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 10, 2008 4:10AM

<< I love how this forum doesn't want to inform those who are somewhat new to purchasing packs about what to really look for. This common method that you guys hint at and seems to be noticiable if you know what you are looking for. I mean if your goal is to keep people out of this part of the hobby I guess not passing along such useful info is a good thing.

>>

I see I was the slowest typer. Did I win anything?

Huh. I didnt post the info because many lurk here. Many of those lurkers are scammers. They seek out ways to make a quick buck.

I have learned some methods. The info was not given to me. I researched it and asked those who knew/trusted me. To make this information public, tells the scammers what not to do and what to do.

My PM is on.

rube26105 · September 10, 2008 4:12AM

<brendan- While stating how a resealed wax pack can be identified can be useful to us honest collectors, it can also be used by resealers to better disguise their bogus packs. It's a double-edged sword and most of us would rather not give the pack builders more ammunition.>

fattymacs · September 10, 2008 4:13AM

Editted will send in a PM.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 10, 2008 4:15AM

Thank You.

fattymacs · September 10, 2008 4:18AM

PM to you Ripken

hockeyguy · September 10, 2008 4:32AM

This topic reminds me of my trips to the local card store, when I was 12 years old or so. It wasnt a real card store, but rather a "Mom & Pops" Cards, Records, Stamps & Coin shop.

I never pulled ANYTHING out of packs that I bought at that place.
NOTHING!

They always had the minor stars & some rookies in their display cases ... but they always had wax stains.

I eventually put it together one day. During one of my weekly trips, I saw the used car salesman/wax box supplier, that sold them the wax boxes. Looks Like HE was the one opening and resealing, and unsuspecting Mom & Pops were opening anything worth a quarter or more that was showing on the back of the packs.

I was never the same. After that, the only thing that I really looked at in their store, were the Iron Maiden LPs ... but then, i discoved Mom & Pops were members of the BMG music club

For all I know, all their coins had chocolate inside

1989FleerBillRipkencollector · September 10, 2008 5:13AM

<< 

For all I know, all their coins had chocolate inside >>

That's funny.

jamesryanbell · September 10, 2008 7:00AM

Just stick with Rack Packs

CDsNuts · September 10, 2008 8:50AM

Just stick with Rack Packs

The following baseball racks are easily searchable: 75 Topps, 78 Topps, 81 Topps, some 82 Topps, some 83 Topps, 84 Topps, 85 Topps, 86 Topps, 87 Topps, 87 Donruss, 88 Topps, 88 Donruss, 88 Score, 89 Topps/Donruss/Fleer/Score. You might want to reconsider this philosophy.

lsutigers1973 · September 10, 2008 9:35AM

What Lee said but I will add any Donruss or Fleer rack or cello of any sport from 1981-1993. Plus, any Fleer or Donruss wax packs from 1981-1993 where you can see the top or bottom card.

jamesryanbell · September 10, 2008 10:40AM

<< Just stick with Rack Packs

The following baseball racks are easily searchable: 75 Topps, 78 Topps, 81 Topps, some 82 Topps, some 83 Topps, 84 Topps, 85 Topps, 86 Topps, 87 Topps, 87 Donruss, 88 Topps, 88 Donruss, 88 Score, 89 Topps/Donruss/Fleer/Score. You might want to reconsider this philosophy. >>

People actually take the time to thumb through the racks?? One, I thought it'd be too much work. Secondly, I thought it'd damage the cards.

jamesryanbell · September 10, 2008 10:41AM

<< What Lee said but I will add any Donruss or Fleer rack or cello of any sport from 1981-1993. Plus, any Fleer or Donruss wax packs from 1981-1993 where you can see the top or bottom card. >>

84 Donruss was sequenced??

lsutigers1973 · September 10, 2008 10:44AM

No need to thumb through the racks if they are all sequenced.

grote15 · September 10, 2008 10:48AM

All the 70s cards were sequenced, but the cello on those racks was much thicker than the cello they used starting in 1977, so it was tougher to thumb through the cards if you didn't know the sequence.

How do you identify a resealed wax pack?

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