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Ginter Code CRACKED?

Is anyone working on this? I was thinking on trying to solve this. I am looking for card scans of the “World’s Greatest Victories”. I have card #6 and I will post a scan of the front and back tonight. If anyone can help post scans of the front and back of the “World’s Greatest Victories” cards. There are 20 cards in all.

- From Topps Web Site - LINK -

Be the First to Crack the Ginter Code!

Topps is offering up the collector’s ultimate prize…The first one to “Crack the Ginter Code” will appear in the 2009 Allen & Ginter Baseball base set. In every 24 packs of 2008 Allen & Ginter Baseball, appears in insert titled “World’s Greatest Victories”. There are 20 different cards in all.

Once all 20 cards are collected, they can be formatted as a group to reveal a secret message. The message has a call for action and the first to do it correctly will appear in next year’s set as the “Champion Code Breaker”.


If you have a “World’s Greatest Victories” card please post a scan of the front and back. We only need one copy of each card.

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  • gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,168 ✭✭✭
    Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    God, I hope not!
  • I think it has already been cracked.
  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    That was fast. I can’t find any info stating that it was solved.
  • it was cracked, it stated the following: "eat at Joes"
  • It seems like there was something on the Beckett boards about it being solved and we had a post here several days that I think it said it was.
  • Yeah its been solved...
    -Rome is Burning

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  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the info. I went over to Beckett’s site to try and find the article. They messed up their site. Very hard to find anything!
    Well you guys saved me a lot of time. Story of my life, a day late and a dollar short!
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    What's the prize? Isn't it having your pubes featured in next year's set or something?
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    I read that the answer may have been:

    "Grow a sweet a$$ mustache."

    Because Topps said the answer is a "call to action," and gave the hints "orange" and "mustache." Probably not, but still sort of crazy enough to believe in.
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  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    The prize was to be on a A&G card next year. Does anyone have a link to the story that it has been solved? I can't find anything on the Beckett site due to the new and improved web site. A DNA card might be a prize for the 2010 A&G!
  • If the code has indeed been cracked Topps will not officialy announce it for a while now. It could possibly cost them sales to do so. With the produce being a month old now and all the collectors pooling resources to crack it. It would be a safe bet the rumors of the code being cracked are true.
  • Too bad. That's a cool prize.
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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>......With the produce being a month old now.......... >>



    I never eat month old produce. Yuck.
  • LOL actually if you buy it at the store chances are it is already 3 or 4 weeks off the plant.
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>LOL actually if you buy it at the store chances are it is already 3 or 4 weeks off the plant. >>



    3 or 4 weeks?? Where the hell do you live? Siberia?
  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    This is all I could find LINK

    I guess they where way ahead over on the Becket Boards then the new site killed the thread.
  • Orange and mustache is clearly a reference to one's face after drinking Tang. Tang was the official drink of the Apollo astronauts. Therefore, the answer is Neil Armstrong, the ultimate human champion who was the first person to set foot on the moon.
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    It could be Yosemite Sam too. Or was his red?
  • "Tang! Did he say Tang?! I love Tang!" - Servo
  • jamesryanbelljamesryanbell Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭
    So no one knows??
    -- Ryan Bell
  • I really hate having to do all the work for you guys. You won't believe who cracked it.

    A&G Crack the Code Solved
  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    I would have to say it has been cracked. The Beckett boards had a thread where a few folks were working on it. When the new site went live the old threads disappeared. The one link I have on the last page stated that he was one of two who sent in correct codes. That was on 8/5 so I would think if they did not get it someone would be right behind them.
  • I would not be surprised if people state they have cracked it, to prevent competion from going further. Thus giving them more time to solve the puzzle. I am far from intelligent, but I have all the cards and can not solve the code.
  • fur72fur72 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭
    Until I hear from Topps I am going to keep trying. Plus it has my girlfriend interested and she is buying blaster boxes while at Target and ripping on her own and I still get to add to my set. So if someone does crack it keep it on the DL until there are no more blasters left. image
  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭
    Do you guys on the PSA boards want to give it a try?
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I was one of the main contributors to that crack the code thread on beckett. We had a good team of guys with some very good
    selections. I wouldn't be surprised if the person who cracked it rode our coat tails for most of it. The most frustrating part was
    being close to cracking it, but having so little info. We needed pictures of the fronts of the cards, namely the victory cards and
    the much rarer team orange cards. We pleaded and even begged for help, but got very little. I actually had hand written team
    victory cards that I used for several days.

    Finding the answer was actaully very fun, I learned a lot of things, its amazing how each clue would fall into your lap. In the end
    I and my friends over on beckett fell short and just didn't have the info we needed.

    The code has been cracked, you can find that out by simply emailing the topps address that is on the code cards....actually the answer
    had nothing to do with emailing the address, but some sort of call to action. The email was set on automatic response....actually a big
    clue to itself.

    Kevin
  • jamesryanbelljamesryanbell Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭
    Details on the answer?
    -- Ryan Bell
  • Link to Crack solution

    Quoted from the post:



    << <i>The answer is “SEND 6 TEAM ORANGE MINIS, ALL 6 MEN WITH MUSTACHES”

    This relates to the 10 Team Orange Mini that are inserts and only 6 of the men have mustaches. You had to send in all 6 Team Orange minis men with mustaches.

    I had all 6 cards and sent them into Topps and they received my certified letter with my answer and cards on 8/7/08. >>


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  • That's just straight up bull crap. Should have been one of us.
  • Amazing how quickly he solved this, just from a material and money standpoint.

    The team orange cards are 1 per 144 packs. There are 10 cards. Assuming never getting a duplicate, that is 1,440 packs or 60 boxes. At $75/box that equals $4,500. This is only for the cards to send into Topps.

    In addition, the World's Greatest Victory cards are 1 per 24 packs. There are 20 cards. Assuming never getting a duplicate, that is 480 packs or 20 boxes. At $75/box that equals $1,500.

    That totals 80 boxes or 10 cases and $6,000 minimum. Pretty impressive to even get ahold of 10 cases that quickly, break the packs and figure out the code.
  • Or he bought as many WGV and Team Orange cards as he could from eBay and friends as quickly as possible. Now that he's pointed it out, the pattern seems so "obvious." He could've noticed it, went on an eBay binge, and held out in hopes no one else would notice.

    Not a bad strategy: from what I've seen written in the blogosphere, Topps only received 2 or 3 correct entries before they started sending out the new email response.
    Nolan Ryan & Edgar Martinez are my favorite players...
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  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    wow, I can't help but feel silly now after I was actually thinking about trying to solve this code after pulling a couple of the cards out of the two blaster boxes I opened of this crap.

    Every time I buy new cards I always feel ripped off. Then a few months later, I forget about it and buy something else new. It's all crap. If you don't pull some autograph or super duper short print parallel card, you've literally bought a box of feces.


  • << <i>If you don't pull some autograph or super duper short print parallel card, you've literally bought a box of feces. >>

    I'm going to guess you're not the set-building type...

    I very much enjoy my 06, 07, and 08 (in progress) A&G sets. It's very zen-like to pull out a binder and flip through them on a lazy weekend.

    I do admit, though, including fake players (Team Orange) this year tested my patience... I'm not sure how I'll like seeing some collecting shmuck on a card next year... especially if they once again fail to include AAGPBL players...
    Nolan Ryan & Edgar Martinez are my favorite players...
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    mosaic's Big 3 Nolan Ryan Run Showcase
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Amazing how quickly he solved this, just from a material and money standpoint.

    The team orange cards are 1 per 144 packs. There are 10 cards. Assuming never getting a duplicate, that is 1,440 packs or 60 boxes. At $75/box that equals $4,500. This is only for the cards to send into Topps.

    In addition, the World's Greatest Victory cards are 1 per 24 packs. There are 20 cards. Assuming never getting a duplicate, that is 480 packs or 20 boxes. At $75/box that equals $1,500.

    That totals 80 boxes or 10 cases and $6,000 minimum. Pretty impressive to even get ahold of 10 cases that quickly, break the packs and figure out the code. >>



    Raw please tell me your under 12 years old!!! If not reread what you wrote and tell me why he would have to pay $6,000 and not the $4,500 alone. Crack that code.
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  • brendanb438brendanb438 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Amazing how quickly he solved this, just from a material and money standpoint.

    The team orange cards are 1 per 144 packs. There are 10 cards. Assuming never getting a duplicate, that is 1,440 packs or 60 boxes. At $75/box that equals $4,500. This is only for the cards to send into Topps.

    In addition, the World's Greatest Victory cards are 1 per 24 packs. There are 20 cards. Assuming never getting a duplicate, that is 480 packs or 20 boxes. At $75/box that equals $1,500.

    That totals 80 boxes or 10 cases and $6,000 minimum. Pretty impressive to even get ahold of 10 cases that quickly, break the packs and figure out the code. >>



    Raw please tell me your under 12 years old!!! If not reread what you wrote and tell me why he would have to pay $6,000 and not the $4,500 alone. Crack that code. >>




    Hahaha. Damn you, I spit coke all over my monitor.


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  • << <i>

    << <i>Amazing how quickly he solved this, just from a material and money standpoint.

    The team orange cards are 1 per 144 packs. There are 10 cards. Assuming never getting a duplicate, that is 1,440 packs or 60 boxes. At $75/box that equals $4,500. This is only for the cards to send into Topps.

    In addition, the World's Greatest Victory cards are 1 per 24 packs. There are 20 cards. Assuming never getting a duplicate, that is 480 packs or 20 boxes. At $75/box that equals $1,500.

    That totals 80 boxes or 10 cases and $6,000 minimum. Pretty impressive to even get ahold of 10 cases that quickly, break the packs and figure out the code. >>



    Raw please tell me your under 12 years old!!! If not reread what you wrote and tell me why he would have to pay $6,000 and not the $4,500 alone. Crack that code. >>



    Yes, you are much wiser than me. Unless, Team Orange Boxes can never contain WGV cards and vise versa:&gtimage

    Despite my ignorant example, $4,500, 1,440 packs and cracking the code all by August 7th is pretty impressive.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    SPOILER: Details of how the guy cracked the code below:




    Here is the order the cards go:
    11, 3, 12, 15, 4, 18, 7, 6, 19, 2, 20, 14, 8, 17, 9, 13, 5, 10, 1, 16

    I figured this out because if you look at the back, the first word and the last word almost all match the next card.
    On card #11 it has a line on the bottom above the code letters/numbers instead of an arrow like on top under the code letters/numbers, card #16 is vice versa, all the rest have arrows on the top and bottom so I figured one of these is the first card and the last card.

    Example - on the first card #11, the last word in the paragraph is Today, the next card is #3, the first word in that paragraph is Today, the last word in the paragraph on #3 is World, the next card #12, the first word in the paragraph is World, the last word in the paragraph on #12 is Year, the next card #15, the first word in the paragraph is Year.

    This happens all the way down to card #5, on card #5, the last word does not match the next, card #10 but the last word Enough in the paragraph on card #10 matches the first word in the paragraph on card #1.

    Line all the cards up in 1 row and write down all the letters/numbers from the top starting with card #11, write them from left to right, it should look like this:

    A I N 3 P F G Q N T S B R E I E T Q N F H A P 5 L N C V Z N F X I E J R 8 D G S D A L K 6 M J D U R H T B E N A O P E F S C T O R E H D T E 2 G I L D A C M X K D H Y R U A T C D P O E J F M D O D H G 3 4 E R N J 2 I S O P E G 8 B Z R A P A P K F 1 T H I T D E A N C M M B F Y N Q O S A G E 7 S F H J T R Y C S G G L D F N E W R E S K S L E O B Z Q T Y E M O F T R I B N U 5 W P K L D N I N H 9 S Y W T E Q Z G D S U O S 5 E P G W T 8 H Y S

    Do this for the bottom EXCEPT write them backwards starting with cards #16 and write all the letters/numbers from right to left, it should look like this:

    D J U T H T H G D B S P O L W A L Y H G T R N B A M L K R R W 6 T 1 2 W L N S M 3 R F H M U Y H T W 6 B E E D A S P V W L Y 1 N R T C A V 7 N W U T H F 5 E W N T C B D U J R K W A L 4 I F H N W B V C K M A Y T Q R 3 G F S D T C H Y W I E T H B D O B W H A L P H S Q M P L D H 2 U T C N W A B S V 7 U Q T W H K A B N S 6 G F H H T P O S A M Q H D 6 T E J P O Q O E N C A Y R 9 2 Y E H X K S H Z V E B N E 7 Y W Q P E 6 S C J E H T 8 E K J A

    Deciphering the code. Starting with the top letters/numbers, start at letter A, now with the cards in order, 11, 3, 12, 15, 4, etc. Start with card #11, go over 11 letters/numbers and you have the letter S,. Next card is #3, go over 3 letters/numbers from S and you have the letter E. Next card is #12, go over 12 letters/numbers and you have the letter N. Do this all the way to the last card, #16.
    Your answer for the top should be “SEND 6 TEAM ORANGE MINIS”

    Now with the bottom, you have to go backwards, do everything in reverse. Go backwards starting with 16, 1, 10, 5, 13, etc. Start at letter D, now with the cards going backwards go over 16 letters/numbers and you have the letter A. Next card is #1, go over 1 letter/number from A and you have L. Next card is #10, go over 10 letters/numbers and you have the letter L. Do this all the way up to the first card, #11.

    Your answer for the bottom should be “ALL 6 MEN WITH MUSTACHES”


    The answer is “SEND 6 TEAM ORANGE MINIS, ALL 6 MEN WITH MUSTACHES”

    This relates to the 10 Team Orange Mini that are inserts and only 6 of the men have mustaches. You had to send in all 6 Team Orange minis men with mustaches.

    I had all 6 cards and sent them into Topps and they received my certified letter with my answer and cards on 8/7/08.

    If you still need help or do not understand, let me know.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I was deep into trying to solve this at the end of July. The winner really didn't have to have all of the greatest victory cards.....I would say a case or case
    and a half would get you the right info if you knew what you were looking for. The irony here is that while I and a bunch of us over on beckett
    were reading the backs of these cards, doing google searches and putting together answers, topps mother of a code only had to do with
    looking at a few numbers and a few words! Perhaps the true trick of this whole thing was how easy it was to crack. Perhaps topps was
    banking on people going too in depth with it.

    Most of the victory cards were already on ebay, you could of easily looked at the scans and solved the riddle even with no cards in hand. You then
    had to just track down a handful of team orange cards...even offer a guy a few bucks on top to overnight them. Even a week to week in a half
    after the first US hobby boxes were showing up, the team orange cards were hard to find on ebay...to think while we were all looking and
    trying to decifer the backs of the team orange cards, the info we had at hand much earlier than this guy was actually enough to break the
    code! (we had the order guessed a few days before this guy)

    In the end the key was what topps told us to begin with...you only needed the victory cards to crack the code NOT the team orange cards too..
    they were right! Maybe next year!

    Kevin
  • One problem I believe you need to have all 20 cards to give to Topps when you tell them your craked the code, I would be wrong I think this is what I read about it.image
    Big Kahuna

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