Carol, a question about 1956 Topps PSA cards
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I have recently started this set, and I have a question about something I noticed when verifying cert #s. I understand that the first 180 cards have a mix of white and gray backs. The first 100 cards were commonly white backs, while the other 80 were mostly gray backs. The remaining cards in the set are all gray. I have seen some slabbed 56s with the color of the back indicated on the flip, and some do not. My question is, if the color of the back is not indicated on the flip, I assume the submitter did not provide the color in the variety column on the sub sheet. So, will PSA automatically assign cards 1-100 with white backs and 101-180 with gray backs if the submitter omits that info on the submission form? I have some gray back low #s that show up as white backs when checking them in the cert. verification.
edited to add it is 1956 Topps Baseball
edited to add it is 1956 Topps Baseball
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Let me preface this by saying I am NOT a 1956 Topps expert, but my understanding is the labeling of the back color on the 1956's (and the 1954's for that matter) started fairly recently, and I think it is done regardless of how the submitter labelled the card on the submission. In fact, Win Pitcher was one of the only people who had any information on the back color "variations" on the 1954's, so I doubt any submitters would have called out the back color on the submission form.
I have not studied it closely, but I believe the back color designation started with the 1/2 point grading scale, as I have yet to see either a 1954 or 1956 with the back color designated on the label that was not also labelled with the "number" grade under the grade abbreviation (i.e. under the 1/2 pt grading scale).
Personally, I'm not sure how I feel about it. Thus far, I have actually been avoiding cards I need for both of those sets that have the back color designated on the label. Stupid I know, but it just bothers me from a consistency standpoint on my sets. I don't want some of my whitebacks labelled as such while others are not. I am curious as to when PSA will add a 1954 master set and add the back colors to the 1956 master set. Not sure why they haven't yet.
Good luck!
-Tom
From what I understand 1 thru 100 come both ways with the gray version being the harder of the 2.
101 thru 180 also come both ways and the white is the tougher.
Some Team cards also have variations as well.
Steve
I just came across this over at net 54:
In the 1956 set there are some printing irregularities on some cards that result in colored line variations in the area of the team or players name on some card fronts. The list may have expanded over time but at one time cards 5 ( Williams), 184 (Bessent), 187 (Wynn) and 240 ( Ford) had the variations. In the case of Ford, the variations involved any of the following...yellow line over his name....red line over his name....red line over the team name.....no line. If you look on ebay now, you will see one seller offering a "red line" variation of that card
Steve
<< <i> So, will PSA automatically assign cards 1-100 with white backs and 101-180 with gray backs if the submitter omits that info on the submission form? I have some gray back low #s that show up as white backs when checking them in the cert. verification. >>
Carol, can you shed any light on this question?
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<< <i>Bob,
Let me preface this by saying I am NOT a 1956 Topps expert, but my understanding is the labeling of the back color on the 1956's (and the 1954's for that matter) started fairly recently, and I think it is done regardless of how the submitter labelled the card on the submission. In fact, Win Pitcher was one of the only people who had any information on the back color "variations" on the 1954's, so I doubt any submitters would have called out the back color on the submission form.
I have not studied it closely, but I believe the back color designation started with the 1/2 point grading scale, as I have yet to see either a 1954 or 1956 with the back color designated on the label that was not also labelled with the "number" grade under the grade abbreviation (i.e. under the 1/2 pt grading scale).
Personally, I'm not sure how I feel about it. Thus far, I have actually been avoiding cards I need for both of those sets that have the back color designated on the label. Stupid I know, but it just bothers me from a consistency standpoint on my sets. I don't want some of my whitebacks labelled as such while others are not. I am curious as to when PSA will add a 1954 master set and add the back colors to the 1956 master set. Not sure why they haven't yet.
Good luck!
-Tom >>
Tom is correct. If you check out the 56 thread on the Registry Forum, this subject is briefly discussed. Personally, I don't care about the back variations and I haven't noticed a premium being paid for the less common back. The idea of a Master set consisting of all the back variations seems waaay too anal to me. The Master set would consist of over 500 cards. But I only collect the Basic Set, so what do I know.