I've just been scammed on Ebay, new one.

Mphilking · July 29, 2008 11:58AM

Imagine that? Well, this one is a new one to me. I sold a Sports Impressions figure of Honus Wagner, the buyer gave me an offer and we went back and forth. They agreed and sent Paypal immediately on Saturday am. I hurried to get it out in Saturdays mail since they paid so quickly. Today, the person filed "Unauthorized Usage" on Paypal and my money has been put on hold and Paypal says money refunded. Now I am out the item and $10 for shipping. How they do that I'm not sure, but beware. The buyer had 0 feedback, but I thought after I rec'd the confirmed payment I was okay. Any ideas?

Bosox1976 · July 29, 2008 12:03PM

Check the rules on seller protection - seems like you did the right thing.

Mphilking · July 29, 2008 12:07PM

LOL, the right thing and Paypal? I once ordered some DVD's for my kids about $300 worth. I rec'd a box of trash, literally old batteries, dirty clothes, garbage, but I had to sign for the box and Paypal said I rec'd the items and signed for them I filed a police report as well and Paypal still did not give me my money back. I just thought after they sent me notification of payment rec'd(not a pending payment) the money was IN MY ACCOUNT. Then they take it back. YOu gotta admit that's a good one.

storm888 · July 29, 2008 12:08PM

IF you complied with ALL of the Seller-Protection requirements,
you are safe. Call PP on the phone, during the day time.

You should have tried to STOP/Intercept the mail today. Tomorrow
is likely too late; try it any way. Go to the PO and they will help you
fill out the form.

NEVER rush to ship. In the current EBAY environment, "2-day handling time,"
is barely safe, and should be stated in the listing.

Once a scammer has your DC/SC number, he will file the fake claim. Many
sellers are no longer telling buyers when an item ships. Buyers who keep
wanting to know when something shipped are flying a red-flag.

Leiascards · July 29, 2008 12:15PM

If you use DC or signature confirmation if over 250.00 then you are covered all you have to do is contact Paypal and provide them with that information.

I recieved an email from Paypal today regarding a chargeback I had for unauthorized use. I did not have DC or anything basically it said They will lose the chargeback, but I am not going to be held liable for the chargeback.

Mphilking · July 29, 2008 12:16PM

Storm, Never thought of trying to stop the mail, didn't even know it was an option. I think the package is well on it's way to California. Since I've posted this however, the buyer responded to me and said,
"I don't know what's going on. The transaction went through with Paypal are you saying that you did not get the payment. Please let me know because I was charged for this transaction on my credit card."
I"m really interested to see how this turns out.

mickeymantle24 · July 29, 2008 12:19PM

Do you have there ebay name so we can be aware to but them on our blocked bidder list?

storm888 · July 29, 2008 12:37PM

Delivery Intercept Form and Process:

Emergency Use Only

If you get lucky, sometimes, they can grab the thing RIGHT BEFORE the crook gets it.

storm888 · July 29, 2008 12:41PM

"...the buyer responded to me and said,
"I don't know what's going on. The transaction went through with Paypal are you saying that you did not get the payment. Please let me know because I was charged for this transaction on my credit card."'''....

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THAT is exactly what EVERY scamster says to the seller.

BunchOBull · July 29, 2008 12:44PM

Hypothetical:

You receive a PP payment. Transfer funds to bank account immediately. Scam artist files claim. What will PP do the get the money out of you with a $0 PP balance? Can they automatically debit it from your bank account or charge your back up forms of payment?

storm888 · July 29, 2008 12:53PM

"...Can they automatically debit it from your bank account or charge your back up forms of payment? ..."

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NOT unless you agree to it.

They will send the collection goonies after you, if you vanish; that and litigation is their only recourse.

Mphilking · July 29, 2008 12:53PM

I ALWAYS withdrawl payments upon receiving them asap. However, I rec'd payments after withdrawling that payment and those funds appear to be on hold.

Mphilking · July 29, 2008 12:54PM

Storm, I sent mine USPS not UPS.

storm888 · July 29, 2008 12:56PM

<< <i>Storm, I sent mine USPS not UPS. >>

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Sorry, wrong link.

I will find the right one and post it.

storm888 · July 29, 2008 1:00PM

USPS Recall.

This might can be filed online, but maybe not with this link.

Best way is to go to your PO.Tell them you are being scammed.

Try looking on your USPS details/tracking page for a way to file online.

Here You Go Form 1509 USPS

Mphilking · July 29, 2008 1:07PM

Thanks Storm, I probably should have just said nothing, but I told the buyer. "I'll just hold the item until everything is cleared up."

storm888 · July 29, 2008 1:18PM

<< <i>Thanks Storm, I probably should have just said nothing, but I told the buyer. "I'll just hold the item until everything is cleared up." >>

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That is OK, but it is always best to have ZERO communication - outside of the dispute panel -
with buyers who file claims..... fake OR legitimate.

If you get the 1509 faxed from your PO to the receiving station fast, you still have a shot at
stopping the thing.

Regardless, if your paperwork is in order with PP, you are covered anyway. I just prefer
to be proactive in my "crime fighting" crusade.

I've just been scammed on Ebay, new one.

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