WOW! Seller CardTarget Has Some Pretty High-End Cards For Auction

JackWESQ · June 25, 2008 1:33PM

Wow, seller CardTarget has some pretty high end cards for auction, to wit:

/s/ JackWESQ

storm888 · June 25, 2008 2:33PM

Looks like the seller went on vacation or has been sitting-out
the initial drama of the recent "changes."

Mighty nice FB record and stars.

elsnorto · June 25, 2008 2:53PM

Hmmm... looking at their feedback as a seller, all items sold in the past 90 days were $.01... quite a change of pace in the newest offerings. Does this strike anyone else as odd?

I also noticed all of their auctions (the most recent being May 15th) are off eBay's records:

This listing (150216623125) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number.
If the listing was removed by eBay, consider it canceled. Note: Listings that have ended more than 90 days ago will no longer appear on eBay.

It ain't older than 90 days, so....?

Snorto~

Leiascards · June 25, 2008 2:57PM

<< <i>Hmmm... looking at their feedback as a seller, all items sold in the past 90 days were $.01... quite a change of pace in the newest offerings. Does this strike anyone else as odd?

Snorto~ >>

And they have all been removed by Ebay.

hofautos · June 25, 2008 3:02PM

Definitely looks suspicious...sent this email to ebay, i hope they confirm his identity...

THIS SELLER HASNT SOLD ANYTHING EXPENSIVE BEFORE - AND NO RECENT ACTIVITY - AND NOW SELLING VERY EXPENSIVE ITEMS - SUGGEST YOU CONFIRM HIS IDENTITY - LOOKS LIKE A HIJACKED ACCOUNT.

Looked just like what happenned with my sisters account when hers was hijacked....she caught it in time though...someone was selling rolex watches and other expensive jewelry under her account. She rarely used her account and was a sucker for those spam emails.

Well SAFEHARBOR says they will investigate, so I am curious to wait and see...

Thank you for writing eBay's SafeHarbor Department about a listing or
seller you would like us to investigate for fraudulent activity. We are
concerned about this type of activity and want to assure you that we
will review your report as soon as possible, usually within 72 hours.

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If he is legit, at least i feel i did my due-diligence in keeping ebay safe from the idiots...can't hurt to have them check...

storm888 · June 25, 2008 3:32PM

Check this out.

link

The seller may have gotten caught up in EBAY's pogrom to purge
electronic/digital items.

They may have removed - in error - his etopps listings; thus, making
yet another enemy.

Now, he is selling some "physical" merch.

Folks with that FB-count seldom get jacked, because they stay
on top of their accounts. (It can happen, obviously, but it's rare.)

Something not right.

Leiascards · June 25, 2008 3:49PM

<< <i>Definitely looks suspicious...sent this email to ebay, i hope they confirm his identity...

THIS SELLER HASNT SOLD ANYTHING EXPENSIVE BEFORE - AND NO RECENT ACTIVITY - AND NOW SELLING VERY EXPENSIVE ITEMS - SUGGEST YOU CONFIRM HIS IDENTITY - LOOKS LIKE A HIJACKED ACCOUNT.

Looked just like what happenned with my sisters account when hers was hijacked....she caught it in time though...someone was selling rolex watches and other expensive jewelry under her account. She rarely used her account and was a sucker for those spam emails.

Well SAFEHARBOR says they will investigate, so I am curious to wait and see...

Thank you for writing eBay's SafeHarbor Department about a listing or
seller you would like us to investigate for fraudulent activity. We are
concerned about this type of activity and want to assure you that we
will review your report as soon as possible, usually within 72 hours.

--------------

If he is legit, at least i feel i did my due-diligence in keeping ebay safe from the idiots...can't hurt to have them check... >>

Thats their standard we will look into it email..

JackWESQ · June 25, 2008 4:10PM

Gentlemen,

I [too] thought something was odd about those auctions, but I didn't want to make any [unfounded] allegations. That said, I also checked out his feedback and said "wow." But then, I said to myself "what?" Look at what he's been selling. So then I decided to dig ultra-deep.

Some of you may already know this, but ebay's completed auctions search goes back two (2) weeks. But if you know the item number, it goes back several months (4-6 months I think.) Beyond that, you get a no longer available response. BUT beyond that, if you have a ten (10) digit ebay auction number, the auction will pull up. For example, here is an auction for a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 6 from May 19, 2006! with an item number of 8810881934. (Final selling price of $22,600.00.)

So I went through CardTarget's feedback looking for a recognizable buyer or a ten (10) digit auction number starting with 881 or 882 in an attempt to find an auction for a "high-end" card. I didn't find any. Though, of course, my search wasn't comprehensive.

But I did find an auction for a 2003 etopps LeBron James that ended on June 6, 2006. Curiously, CardTarget "ended this listing early to sell to the high bidder(s) at current bid price" of $0.01. Huh? And another 2003 etopps Dwayne Wade that CardTarget ended for $0.01. I don't know.

Call me paranoid, but something definitely seems odd.

/s/ JackWESQ

storm888 · June 25, 2008 4:17PM

The one-cent sales could simply be some element of fee-avoidance.

I searched the primary forums on EBAY and found only one discussion
of him, but it was generic and not defamatory.

I suspect he has just soured on EBAY, and is using the site to sell some
expensive stuff. If the account is not jacked, that seems to be the only
explanation.

..........................................

Also, hundreds of sellers of digital-media were NARUd; many in error.
If that happened to this guy, I know he would be major mad. Likely
mad enough to quit listing in quantity.

mexisar · June 25, 2008 4:26PM

they are legit, those one cent auctions, are to transfer etopps cards
between traders in the site.
all those high end cards were bought with partial shares from members of the site.
http://cardtarget.com/cgi-bin/ct_checklist.cgi

Item Name Shares Market Cap Owners
1887 Allen & Ginter Charles Comiskey (PSA 6) 200 $1,930.00 33
1909-11 T206 Chick Gandil (Red Hindu SGC 50) (R) 315 $3,150.00 42
1909-11 T206 Iron Man McGinnity (SGC 96) 1550 $13,717.50 68
1909-11 T206 Nap Lajoie Throwing (PSA 9) 1600 $15,200.00 64
1911 T205 Christy Mathewson (SGC 7) 830 $7,262.50 61
1933 Goudey Sport Kings Babe Didrickson (PSA 8) (R) 375 $3,457.50 37
1939 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA 8) (R) 600 $4,848.00 57
1941 Play Ball Joe DiMaggio (GAI 8.5) 1100 $8,855.00 56
1941 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA 8) 510 $4,166.70 45
1948 Bowman Stan Musial (PSA 9) (R) 750 $7,425.00 32
1949 Bowman Jackie Robinson (PSA 8) 240 $2,184.00 43
1949 Leaf Babe Ruth (PSA 8) 690 $5,727.00 57
1954 Topps Jackie Robinson (PSA 9) 360 $2,998.80 44
1954 Topps Willie Mays (GAI 9) 730 $5,840.00 42
1959 Fleer "Ted Signs For 59" PSA 9 205 $2,047.95 21
1966 Philadelphia Gale Sayers (PSA 9) (R) 240 $2,637.60 21
1968 Topps Nolan Ryan (PSA 9) (R) 520 $4,685.20 48
1981 Topps Joe Montana (PSA 10) (R) 330 $2,630.10 39
1984 Topps John Elway (PSA 10) (R) 220 $1,870.00 45
Wayne Gretzky Signed Red Wings Jersey 320 $2,403.20 38

Former Market Items
Item Name Shares
1909-11 T206 Christy Mathewson (Broadleaf 460) 375
1909-11 T206 Collection of 36 Backs 505
1909-11 T206 Danny Murphy (Broadleaf 460) 185
1909-11 T206 Gabby Street (Broadleaf 460) 165
1909-11 T206 Home Run Baker (Broadleaf 460) 225
1909-11 T206 Red Kleinow - Boston (Broadleaf 460) 270
1909-11 T206 Rube Marquard Uzit Back (PSA 7) 875
1909-11 T206 Walter Johnson (Lenox - SGC 3) 220
1911 C55 Georges Vezina (PSA 4) (R) 190
1911 T3 Turkey Red Ty Cobb (SGC 40) 430
1915 Cracker Jack Clark Griffith (PSA 8) 300
1928 Harrington's Ice Cream Lou Gehrig (PSA 6) 395
1928 Harrington's Ice Cream Ty Cobb (PSA 6) 170
1933 Goudey Mel Ott (PSA 8) 185
1948 Bowman Yogi Berra (GAI 9) (R) 560
1949 Bowman Roy Campanella (PSA 9) (R) 555
1952 Bowman Mickey Mantle (PSA 8) 415
1953 Topps Satchel Paige (PSA 8) 210
1954 Topps Hank Aaron Rookie (PSA 8) (R) 415
1955 Topps Roberto Clemente Rookie (PSA 8) (R) 565
1957 Topps Brooks Robinson (PSA 9) (R) 445
1958 Topps Willie Mays (PSA 9) 760
1961 Fleer Oscar Robertson (PSA 9) (R) 375
1962 Topps Roberto Clemente (PSA 9) 330
1963 Topps Mickey Mantle (PSA 9) 525
1967 Topps Rod Carew Rookie (PSA 9) (R) 320
1970 Topps Pete Maravich (PSA 9) (R) 190
1975 Topps Mini Robin Yount (PSA 10) (R) 270
1976 Topps Walter Payton (PSA 10) (R) 385
1979 O-Pee-Chee Ozzie Smith (PSA 10) (R) 195
1979 O-Pee-Chee Wayne Gretzky (PSA 9) (R) 460
1984 Topps John Elway (PSA 10) (Sold) (R) 200
1986 Fleer Michael Jordan Rookie (PSA 10) (R) 525

hofautos · June 25, 2008 4:27PM

nevermind...i just read the rest of the thread...maybe legit?...better safe than sorry...

mexisar · June 25, 2008 4:34PM

cardtarget even has this neat psa tool
http://www.cardtarget.com/cgi-bin/psa_cert.cgi
to check a bunch of psa certs at the same time(slow the first time, but fast after)

hofautos · June 25, 2008 4:43PM

<< <i>they are legit, those one cent auctions, are to transfer etopps cards
between traders in the site.
all those high end cards were bought with partial shares from members of the site.
http://cardtarget.com/cgi-bin/ct_checklist.cgi

Item Name Shares Market Cap Owners
1887 Allen & Ginter Charles Comiskey (PSA 6) 200 $1,930.00 33
1909-11 T206 Chick Gandil (Red Hindu SGC 50) (R) 315 $3,150.00 42
1909-11 T206 Iron Man McGinnity (SGC 96) 1550 $13,717.50 68
1909-11 T206 Nap Lajoie Throwing (PSA 9) 1600 $15,200.00 64
1911 T205 Christy Mathewson (SGC 7) 830 $7,262.50 61
1933 Goudey Sport Kings Babe Didrickson (PSA 8) (R) 375 $3,457.50 37
1939 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA 8) (R) 600 $4,848.00 57
1941 Play Ball Joe DiMaggio (GAI 8.5) 1100 $8,855.00 56
1941 Play Ball Ted Williams (PSA 8) 510 $4,166.70 45
1948 Bowman Stan Musial (PSA 9) (R) 750 $7,425.00 32
1949 Bowman Jackie Robinson (PSA 8) 240 $2,184.00 43

Former Market Items
Item Name Shares
1909-11 T206 Christy Mathewson (Broadleaf 460) 375
1909-11 T206 Collection of 36 Backs 505
1909-11 T206 Danny Murphy (Broadleaf 460) 185
1909-11 T206 Gabby Street (Broadleaf 460) 165
1909-11 T206 Home Run Baker (Broadleaf 460) 225
1909-11 T206 Red Kleinow - Boston (Broadleaf 460) 270
1909-11 T206 Rube Marquard Uzit Back (PSA 7) 875
1909-11 T206 Walter Johnson (Lenox - SGC 3) 220
>>

I don't really understand what you are saying about shares and such ...is this like a club that buys in as a group? Sounds interesting...well at least if you know they are legit, I will notify that to ebay as well..

ajmoeller81 · June 25, 2008 9:28PM

They are legit.

CardTarget first started up to track shares of cards at eTopps.

Then they decided to delve into Vintage under the same concept as eTopps. They buy a nice $10,000 card then split it up into 500 shares at $20 a share. Then the community either buys, sells or holds the shares. At some point let's say CardTarget sells the card for $12,000, then all shareholders would receive $24 per share. Very speculative group, usually more interested in the investing side of cards than the collecting.

leathtech · June 25, 2008 10:28PM

nothing to worry about with Cardtarget they have been rock solid in the etopps world... They had a buying group going on for a few years, buying up old stuff - probably just selling it off now.

their website is the VCP of the etopps world.

link

prscott933 · June 26, 2008 1:54AM

Cardtarget is FULLY legit. I have been a member over there for a relatively long time and have hated to see our partial shares market fall apart. We were a group of collectors that pooled money to buy high end and rare cards. It was great but the insurance costs and lack of trading ended up making it too costly to continue. We have been selling off our cards to private people for a few weeks and have put the rest on ebay and in upcoming auctions.

WOW! Seller CardTarget Has Some Pretty High-End Cards For Auction

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