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What would these two Bowmans grade?

I just picked up these two Bowmans today and was wondering what you gentlemen think they would grade. Does anybody know what the stain on the back of the 1951 is? I see this a lot on Bowmans. Is this a wax stain?
thanks,
Bob

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ebay seller name milbroco
email bcmiller7@comcast.net

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  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    5.5 ST, 4
    Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards.
    Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
  • ElemenopeoElemenopeo Posts: 2,577 ✭✭

    If I remember right the staining on the backs of the '51 Bowmans is from a cookie of some sort.

    Are those scratches on the bottom of the Ramazotti?
  • Ladder7Ladder7 Posts: 1,221
    if not trimmed, a 2. the other a 5 perhaps?
  • milbrocomilbroco Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭✭
    Elemenopeo - WOW good eye. Yes that is a surface scratch on the Ramazotti card.image

    My eyes are definately going on me. I can see a lot more flaws in the scan than I can when looking at the cards.image

    OK Thanks guys.

    Bob
    ebay seller name milbroco
    email bcmiller7@comcast.net
  • TonyCTonyC Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭
    A 4 because of that nick on the bottom edge as seen in the scan of the back and maybe a 4 or 5 on the second one.
    Collecting Tony Conigliaro
  • fattymacsfattymacs Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭
    4 and 5, the stains are commonplace on the backs of the 51's, I think some were sold in 1 cent packs (1 card).
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,834 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>4 and 5, the stains are commonplace on the backs of the 51's, I think some were sold in 1 cent packs (1 card). >>




    The Football issue of that same year is common to have staining on the backs as well..
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