Has the 1971 Topps Munson ALWAYS Been 1) Highly Sought After; and 2) Worth More Than The 1970 Topps?

JackWESQ · June 4, 2008 10:40AM

Just an esoteric hobby question here, but has the 1971 Topps Munson always been a highly sought after card? Been "worth" more than the 1970 Topps Munson. We all know that typically a rookie card is worth more than a 2nd, 3rd, etc., year card. But the 1971 Topps Munson is a clear exception to this "rule." Did the 1971 Munson skyrocket in price only after the advent of grading and people started to realize that a PSA 8 or PSA 9 1971 Munson was quite rare?

Other than the 1970 and 1971 Topps Munson, are there any examples of 2nd, 3rd year cards being more valuable than rookie cards? Thanks.

/s/ JackWESQ

Brian48 · June 4, 2008 10:47AM

Prior to grading, the '72 Garvey (hi-number) was always priced higher than his '71 rookie. Now it's the reverse, provided that it's a high-grade.

nam812 · June 4, 2008 10:51AM

<< Prior to grading, the '72 Garvey (hi-number) was always priced higher than his '71 rookie...... >>

That is driven by the fact that the 72 is in the high series.

SDavid · June 4, 2008 10:51AM

Favre's second year SC card is worth more than his rookie.

paleocards · June 4, 2008 10:55AM

An example of a HOFer non-RC being more valuable than his rookie: 1966 Topps #598 Gaylord Perry (last card in the set) vs. his 1962 RC.

$160 vs. $95 in PSA 7

Leiascards · June 4, 2008 10:58AM

<< An example of a HOFer non-RC being more valuable than his rookie: 1966 Topps #598 Gaylord Perry (last card in the set) vs. his 1962 RC.

$160 vs. $95 in PSA 7 >>

Result of being the last card as well as a high number. Same reason the 1st card in a set is usually hard to find in great shape affects the last card.

DrJ · June 4, 2008 11:03AM

1952 Topps Mantle worth much much more than a 1951 Bowman.

hofautos · June 4, 2008 11:04AM

Whenever the rookie is a multiplayer card, the 2nd year card (3rd year card in case of niekro who had 2 multiplayer cards before his "solo rookie")is usually more sought after....and sometimes more expensive. I know I personally collect the 2nd year cards where the players first card is a multiplayer card. This is especially true for the munson though because of the tough borders. It has always been quite a bit more expensive but has shot up even more over the years as it has become considered a "classic" card by many....and it truly is deserving of that title...sweet card.

I wish i didn't sell my 8 when I did...it's almost too crazy expensive to buy now...

SDSportsFan · June 4, 2008 11:10AM

For a long time, the 1970 Topps Johnny Bench, by virtue of it being in the rarer high series, was worth a lot more than his 1968 rookie card.

Steve

digicat · June 4, 2008 11:19AM

I've got a copy of the September 1989 Beckett.

1970 Topps Thurman Munson = $40
1971 Topps Thurman Munson = $18

<< An example of a HOFer non-RC being more valuable than his rookie: 1966 Topps #598 Gaylord Perry (last card in the set) vs. his 1962 RC.

$160 vs. $95 in PSA 7 >>

Welllll.... when you look at PSA 8s, his 1962 rookie sells for twice as much as a 1966 PSA 8.

I remember that some 2nd year cards in 1992 Bowman were more desirable than their rookie counterparts from 1991 (Pedro, I-Rod, Mondesi, Chipper).

HoofHearted · June 4, 2008 11:27AM

<< It has always been quite a bit more expensive but has shot up even more over the years as it has become considered a "classic" card by many....and it truly is deserving of that title...sweet card. >>

I considered this a classic card and was fortunate to have one offered for sale by one of the board members here -- I forget who -- but it's always on display on my card shelves! It's got a teeny-tiny crease in the picture that doesn't detract from the image at all. I love this card!

digicat · June 4, 2008 11:34AM

Ahh, a 1994 Tuff Stuff...

1989 Fleer Albert Belle = $3.50
1990 Leaf Albert Belle = $17.00

1990 Upper Deck Juan Gonzalez = $7.50
1991 Ultra Update Juan Gonzalez = $20

1991 Bowman Raul Mondesi = $2.50
1992 Bowman Raul Mondesi = $18.00

1991 Bowman Tim Salmon = $2.00
1992 Fleer Update Tim Salmon = $35.00 (!!!!)

1991 Bowman Kenny Lofton = $1.50
1992 Fleer Update Kenny Lofton = $20.00

Heh... anyone have a time machine?

1993 SP Derek Jeter = $4.00
1994 SP Alex Rodriguez = $2.00

fattymacs · June 4, 2008 11:35AM

I'm with hofautos, The only multi player rookie card I like is Johnny Bench. I like the 71 Munson and 64 Rose much better than the multi-player rookie cards. I'm a big Rose fan and I wouldn't have one of his rookie cards up my butt if I had room for 2 of them.

HoofHearted · June 4, 2008 11:50AM

<< I'm with hofautos, The only multi player rookie card I like is Johnny Bench. I like the 71 Munson and 64 Rose much better than the multi-player rookie cards. I'm a big Rose fan and I wouldn't have one of his rookie cards up my butt if I had room for 2 of them. >>

I just had my Bench rookie graded -- came back an 8!

digicat · June 4, 2008 12:08PM

I kinda like the multi rookie cards. They have to share with the scrubs, because they hadn't earned their stripes yet.

hofautos · June 4, 2008 12:08PM

<< I'm with hofautos, The only multi player rookie card I like is Johnny Bench. I like the 71 Munson and 64 Rose much better than the multi-player rookie cards. I'm a big Rose fan and I wouldn't have one of his rookie cards up my butt if I had room for 2 of them. >>

Yea...a few more examples...

fattymacs · June 4, 2008 12:24PM

The 66 Tony Perez is another good example.

nightcrawler · June 4, 2008 12:33PM

I'm not to big on that Pete Rose rc, them guys look like they got their heads sticking outta the sand, lol.

The 71 Munson is one of the greatest ever cards IMO.

hofautos · June 4, 2008 1:23PM

<< The 66 Tony Perez is another good example. >>

Here's the complete list of hofers that share their rookie card (rice is on there because i still have hope, and rose is on there because he should be)

SOLO ROOKIES
1964 rose
1964 stargell
1966 niekro
1966 morgan
1966 catfish jim hunter
1966 perez
1967 carlton
1967 jenkins
1967 sutton
1968 seaver
1968 carew
1969 nolan
1970 rollie
1973 fisk
1974 schmidt
1976 jim rice
1976 carter
1979 molitor

SDSportsFan · June 4, 2008 2:26PM

<< 

<< The 66 Tony Perez is another good example. >>

Here's the complete list of hofers that share their rookie card (rice is on there because i still have hope, and rose is on there because he should be)

SOLO ROOKIES
1964 rose
1964 stargell
1966 niekro
1966 morgan
1966 catfish jim hunter
1966 perez
1967 carlton
1967 jenkins
1967 sutton
1968 seaver
1968 carew
1969 nolan
1970 rollie
1973 fisk
1974 schmidt
1976 jim rice
1976 carter
1979 molitor >>

Don't forget Johnny Bench and Cal Ripken Jr.

Steve

GDM67 · June 4, 2008 3:05PM

I'm on record agreeing w/ hofautos about second year cards. The ones illustrated here make the case nicely (I love that Morgan card.) It's always a nice bonus if your guy had a solid rookie season and has a Topps Rookie Team trophy, like Joe, Johnny and Pete. Perez has one, so do Carew, Seaver and Fisk.

hofautos · June 4, 2008 4:08PM

<< 

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<< The 66 Tony Perez is another good example. >>

Here's the complete list of hofers that share their rookie card (rice is on there because i still have hope, and rose is on there because he should be)

SOLO ROOKIES
1964 rose
1964 stargell
1966 niekro
1966 morgan
1966 catfish jim hunter
1966 perez
1967 carlton
1967 jenkins
1967 sutton
1968 seaver
1968 carew
1969 nolan
1970 rollie
1973 fisk
1974 schmidt
1976 jim rice
1976 carter
1979 molitor >>

Don't forget Johnny Bench and Cal Ripken Jr.

Steve >>

whoops missed bench, but ripken already has the 82 traded rookie..

hofautos · June 4, 2008 4:12PM

<< I'm on record agreeing w/ hofautos about second year cards. The ones illustrated here make the case nicely (I love that Morgan card.) It's always a nice bonus if your guy had a solid rookie season and has a Topps Rookie Team trophy, like Joe, Johnny and Pete. Perez has one, so do Carew, Seaver and Fisk. >>

BTW, FYI - the last psa 8 66 morgan sold for $255 and the last psa 8 65 morgan sold for $130

GDM67 · June 4, 2008 5:59PM

Joe actually has one of the better looking multiplayer rookies (for what that's worth.) The Colt .45's hat and Sonny Jackson's uncanny resemblence to Chris Rock add visual appeal to it.

I kind of like the Jenkins rookie, too. But I prefer his superb '67 "solo rookie" (I'm going to start using that

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Has the 1971 Topps Munson ALWAYS Been 1) Highly Sought After; and 2) Worth More Than The 1970 Topps?

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