OT: basement find...KISS autos along with some other odds and ends

ldferg · May 17, 2008 6:12AM

wow, i was cleaning out my basement today and i found some interesting stuff....the first item is for mefer. i knew i had this somewhere but had given up on looking for it years ago.

i got this in 1980. i had drawn a picture of each member and they sent this back...this was when all 4 of the original members existed..i was in the 5th grade.

SoonerCowboy · May 17, 2008 6:36AM

Very cool. I saw them in concert in 1997 and it was a very good show.
"If you what the best, you got the best."

ldferg · May 17, 2008 7:19AM

i was checking ebay to see if there were any autographs of them. looks like there are a couple and their auto's have changed over time. it looks like in my auto ace's last name is signed "frehely"...is this right?

could i send something like this to psa/dna? i've never sent an auto.

calling mefer.....

Tedw9 · May 17, 2008 7:20AM

Awesome piece! My wife used to work for them on their website message board, thats how we met.

And I agree, they rock in concert!

zep33 · May 17, 2008 8:17AM

love the $ in simmons LOL

thenavarro · May 17, 2008 9:17AM

Here's all 4 on one piece that was sold in April 07:

KISS auction

It would cost you $75.00 plus shipping/insurance both ways to get KISS autographs authenticated by PSA/DNA

Take care,

Mike

brianwintersfan · May 17, 2008 10:09AM

Those are not legit in my opinion.

PS: I just emailed that pic to a friend of mine. At one point he had one of the largest Kiss collections in US. He has seen enough auto's over the years.

ldferg · May 17, 2008 12:30PM

bwf,
please let me know what your friend has to say. this would have been in 1980. what strikes me as odd right off the bat is ace's last name. don't tell me it's fake....this would be like a dagger...ugh

ldferg · May 17, 2008 12:52PM

the kiss autos are on a piece of cardboard...here's the flipside.

Ironmanfan · May 17, 2008 1:00PM

probably signed by someone on the publicity staff

ldferg · May 17, 2008 1:02PM

this is bringing back some great memories. this one is from 82.

the autos were obtained by me mailing a letter to the team/player back in the day. it's amazing what some of them sent....of course i really didn't care if something was autographed or not back then, i was just happy to receive a reply.

ldferg · May 17, 2008 1:04PM

ironman,
i am tending to side with you the more i think about this...it turns my stomach. to me, they will always be the "real" thing.

ldferg · May 17, 2008 1:07PM

my all time favorite when i was a kid was dan fouts....here's the reverse of the montana auto'd pic. they were in a scrapbook and this page was removed and i found it in the same box as the kiss autos.

this is a picture of the 1982 topps fouts card that i drew. needless to say, i can remember freaking out when i received this back.

this is making me want to start a dan fouts registry set....and i just purchased a 75 rack pack from bbce with fouts on the back.

Buccaneer · May 17, 2008 1:10PM

<< probably signed by someone on the publicity staff >>

Yep, very, very common thing to do.

ldferg · May 17, 2008 1:22PM

i've got several of the envelopes where i received stuff.

notice what the cardinals sent back to me. i forgot about the strike.

ldferg · May 17, 2008 1:25PM

...and this was from the topps send-in from the wrappers.

no telling how many of these things are floating around.

i also found a hank aaron poster..looks like from the 70s and a pete rose poster late 70s early 80s. no way i can scan those but if i can get my camera from my daughter i'll take a pic and see if someone can help me determine the actual date.

downtown · May 17, 2008 1:36PM

Just watched DETROIT ROCK CITY!
for about the 1oth time

brianwintersfan · May 17, 2008 2:20PM

<< bwf,
please let me know what your friend has to say. this would have been in 1980. what strikes me as odd right off the bat is ace's last name. don't tell me it's fake....this would be like a dagger...ugh >>

Sorry to say but he feels they are no good. Most likely signed by someone in the office.

ldferg · May 18, 2008 2:58AM

bwf,
thanks for the information...not what i wanted to hear.

Stone193 · May 18, 2008 3:03AM

David

I really like the Kiss sigs! I bet Garret aka Knuckles could cut those out and make one hell of a card for you!

What do ya think?

mike

ldferg · May 18, 2008 3:08AM

mike,
i really never thought of making a card out of the sigs but that is a good idea. i should run it by knuckles to see what he thinks.

brianwintersfan · May 18, 2008 11:38AM

<< David

I really like the Kiss sigs! I bet Garret aka Knuckles could cut those out and make one hell of a card for you!

What do ya think?

mike >>

Why would you spend the money to have cards made for bogus autographs??

Stone193 · May 18, 2008 11:52AM

<< 

<< David

I really like the Kiss sigs! I bet Garret aka Knuckles could cut those out and make one hell of a card for you!

What do ya think?

mike >>

Why would you spend the money to have cards made for bogus autographs?? >>

Why are you quoting me?

I didn't authenticate them!

Stone

edit: He said he got this back in 1980 - sigs "do" change I believe.

fur72 · May 18, 2008 12:28PM

David,

Thanks for sharing you sweet finds.

Cory

ldferg · May 18, 2008 12:42PM

bwf,
hard to explain: in my mind the autos are real...i may be in lala land, but that's just the way i feel about them. i appreciate you going out of your way and having your friend give his opinion. of course it was one i didn't want to hear

i think with some of the creations knuckles has done in the past coupled with my interest in cards, the cut sigs is a neat idea. due to the size of the autos, i don't know how much card room knuckles would have to work with...i'm sure it would be a tall boy order..haha

Stone193 · May 18, 2008 12:53PM

<< bwf,
hard to explain: in my mind the autos are real...i may be in lala land, but that's just the way i feel about them. i appreciate you going out of your way and having your friend give his opinion. of course it was one i didn't want to hear

i think with some of the creations knuckles has done in the past coupled with my interest in cards, the cut sigs is a neat idea. due to the size of the autos, i don't know how much card room knuckles would have to work with...i'm sure it would be a tall boy order..haha >>

David

If they're on the large size - no problem - Garret made this Mays auto into PC size and I like it fine.

I'ld be interested to see what he comes up with.

mike

brianwintersfan · May 18, 2008 4:25PM

<< bwf,
hard to explain: in my mind the autos are real...i may be in lala land, but that's just the way i feel about them. >>

My minds made up. Don't confuse me with the facts.

Sorry dude but those aren't real. The fact that Ace's last name was spelled incorrectly should tell you something. It's your money and not mine so if you want to waste it on custom made cards for fake auto's go ahead.

P.S.-Peter left the band in June of 1980 and wasn't on the best of terms towards the end of his time with the band. I highly doubt he was hanging around the management office waiting to sign fan mail.

brianwintersfan · May 18, 2008 4:26PM

<< He said he got this back in 1980 - sigs "do" change I believe. >>

Not that much!

Stone193 · May 19, 2008 12:43AM

<< 

<< He said he got this back in 1980 - sigs "do" change I believe. >>

Not that much! >>

Wow. Don't get all emotional or anything?

Sorry to have picued your sensibility.

From the movie Stripes - "lighten up Francis"

ebayaddict · May 19, 2008 1:15AM

Hate to rain also........looks like the same person signed them all.

MeteoriteGuy · May 19, 2008 1:25AM

<< Hate to rain also........looks like the same person signed them all. >>

I agree. It also looks like the person who signed them was left handed.

Mefer · May 19, 2008 2:58AM

MEFER in the house! I just came across these after being away this weekend. Thanks for sharing. Fantastic piece and story BUT I also must unfortunately agree that the autographs are not genuine. I have multiple examples of Gene, Paul and Peter and have seen multiple other legit examples.

On Gene's signature, he typically signs with what looks like a lower case "g." His signature is also not typically that neat. While I do not have mine in front of me, here is a legit Gene signature:

Gene Auto

On Paul's signature, his name usually runs all together, is fairly fluid, and I feel (personally) just down right cool. You can also generally make out a star in the signature. The Paul signature you have is not close:

Paul Stanley

Peter's signature is usually pretty sloppy and is does not sign with the lightening bolt "s." I can't find a legitiamate Peter Criss sig on the Internet at the moment, but that one does not look right to me. Also, as another board member pointed out, Peter was on his way out in 1980 from the band and was not on good terms with the other three. It therefore would be surprising to have him sign something with the others in 1980.

Ace's signature is typically more "curly" and goes more upright instead of to the right. Also, I do not recall ever seeing him sign the "F" backwards.

Again, I hate to be a killjoy too, but I would question the authenticity of the autographs. That aside, if I had received such a note as a young boy in 1980, I would have been THRILLED. You can't take that memory away and that is priceless.

Thanks for sharing!

ldferg · May 19, 2008 3:27AM

...if I had received such a note as a young boy in 1980, I would have been THRILLED. You can't take that memory away and that is priceless.

GREAT!!!!! This was the premise of my post. The authenticity was secondhand and I appreciate the opinions.

brianwintersfan · May 19, 2008 4:18AM

<< ...if I had received such a note as a young boy in 1980, I would have been THRILLED. You can't take that memory away and that is priceless.

GREAT!!!!! This was the premise of my post. The authenticity was secondhand and I appreciate the opinions.

>>

The only reason I pushed my point was that I didn't want you to waste money having them turned into cards when I knew they weren't good. My intentions were not to rain on your parade!

OT: basement find...KISS autos along with some other odds and ends

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