VCP help, please

Goodsport40 · May 1, 2008 12:27AM

If someone can tell me the most recent prices on a 1966 Topps Tony Perez #72 PSA 8 I would greatly appreciate the information. Thanks.

Robert

fattymacs · May 1, 2008 12:32AM

That site is the slowest thing on the net.

Finally: $203.51 , last 5 avg. $174.98

I like the looks of that card, I hope you get a good one.

Goodsport40 · May 1, 2008 12:35AM

Thanks for the help. SMR on that card is only $60!

Guess I better look for a nice 7!

Robert

fattymacs · May 1, 2008 12:44AM

I think 7's are in the $30.00 range (this is a guess, I don't feel like going back to confirm).

Good Luck.

cwazzy · May 1, 2008 1:02AM

For a 7 the last sale was $31.01 and the last 5 average is $23.35. Good luck.

Chris

VitoCo1972 · May 1, 2008 1:08AM

Seriously - just forget SMR. It's practically useless. If you need to use a magazine style price guide - go with Beckett Graded Card Investor. It's like SMR but incorporates a lot of VCP style data in it. It also will tell you about recent sales from 4 grading companies - PSA, SGC, BGS, GAI. Especially on prewar and modern stuff (places where there is a modicum of competition in the grading industry) you can see what people are paying for PSA stuff versus other companies. Most of the Silver age stuff (50's/60's) is all PSA sales anyway so aside from VCP type data it doesn't really help with that. I mentioned this to another board member last month and the same goes for you. So you don't think I'm crazy, I'll send you my last issue - the new one just came anyway. Just PM me your address.

cwazzy · May 1, 2008 1:24AM

I'll second the Graded Card Investor magazine. It's not perfect but it is much more accurate than SMR. And a decent magazine all the way around.

Chris

paleocards · May 1, 2008 1:46AM

The reason that SMR is so far off on the '66 Topps #72 Perez PSA 8 is that there are no 9's or 10's (no 8.5's yet for that matter). Today there are 62 PSA 8s, nothing higher (1 qualified 9 out of 284 total Perez cards graded). It's the toughest HOFer in the 1966 Topps set, and arguably the toughest card of all. Perez and #482 (Cubs rookies) are the only two cards in the set without having a single example graded higher than an unqualified 8. I have one in 8 that I submitted raw in February of 2006. I've tracked completed eBay auctions since then, here's the data:

Item # Serial # Closing Date Opening Bid Winning Bid # of Bids
8759836232 11636584 2/7/2006 $9.95 $97.00 15
8814831953 31586757 5/26/2006 $9.99 $92.56 16
290037134293 90379601 10/16/2006 $9.99 $126.66 17
200053753758 01068310 12/7/2006 $9.95 $84.00 7
260150292259 31874452 8/23/2007 $9.99 $141.51 17
130156233669 02111576 9/29/2007 $9.99 $211.51 22
190169701670 81930006 11/9/2007 $49.99 $154.50 6
270194319217 05066234 12/10/2007 $9.99 $140.39 11
130181856351 04673324 12/15/2007 $9.99 $165.01 17
140211517937 08270473 3/6/2008 $9.99 $203.51 18

Averages: $141.67 14.6

I'm interested to see when the first 8.5 hits the 'bay (I'm sure that some of the PSA 8 owners have re-submitted their well-centered examples...)

Griffins · May 1, 2008 2:29AM

The reason SMR is off on this and many, many other issues is no one seems to care about keeping it current. It's a vehicle for selling ads, and if it had to be specifically subscribed to (instead of being a benefit of membership) would probably cease to exist in a matter of months.

longtimemetsfan · May 1, 2008 2:36AM

I agree about the Beckett Graded. A very good guide. I like that they show pricing on many low pop commons also.

tombo · May 1, 2008 2:45AM

The reason SMR is off on this and many, many other issues is no one seems to care about keeping it current

I am not sure if a single golf/boxing card has changed value in the past 2 years according to SMR!!

markj111 · May 1, 2008 6:12AM

<< <i>The reason that SMR is so far off on the '66 Topps #72 Perez PSA 8 is that there are no 9's or 10's (no 8.5's yet for that matter). Today there are 62 PSA 8s, nothing higher (1 qualified 9 out of 284 total Perez cards graded). It's the toughest HOFer in the 1966 Topps set, and arguably the toughest card of all.

The Perez card is not even close to the toughest card in the set.

Goodsport40 · May 1, 2008 6:34AM

Vito, thanks for the offer. It just so happens that I was looking at Beckett Graded at the bookstore today and saw that they have that card priced at $150.

Not a bad magazine overall. I realize that SMR is not very accurate. I need to break down and join VCP. Thanks for the help.

Robert

ElectricPrune · May 1, 2008 6:44AM

<< <i>Most of the Silver age stuff (50's/60's) >>

Are baseball cards from this era referred to as "Silver Age"? I've never heard that term for cards, just comics.

VCP help, please

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