Overgraded PSA card purchase

f2tornado · April 16, 2008 6:47AM

I purchased the card below on eBay a month or two ago. It is a mint 9, or so the label says. I was getting ready to list the card since Sheets has been pitching well and noticed numerous indentations on the reverse side of the card. One is considerably deep and long. The upper left corner on the back also has factory roller marks. It would appear PSA hired Stevie Wonder but even Stevie could feel this gouge. My scanner cannot pick up the intentations on the reverse side and they are barely discernable in a digital photo... but are most certainly there. There is no way the card is mint. A surface flaw this substantial is almost as bad a crease which could knock the overall grade to a 6. Does PSA still have the buyback guarantee?

plifter · April 16, 2008 6:54AM

I'd be careful if I were you. There are some people on this board that insist PSA never screws up and if you question PSA's judgement you will be flamed to death.

storm888 · April 16, 2008 7:05AM

I would call PSA and ask them to take a look at the card.

Your desire NOT to sell a card with a potential problem is admirable.

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A PSA Mint 9 is a superb condition card that exhibits only one of the following minor flaws: a very slight wax stain on reverse, a minor printing imperfection or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 60/40 to 65/35 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.
NM-MT 8: Near Mint-Mint.

A PSA NM-MT 8 is a super high-end card that appears Mint 9 at first glance, but upon closer inspection, the card can exhibit the following: a very slight wax stain on reverse, slightest fraying at one or two corners, a minor printing imperfection, and/or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 65/35 to 70/30 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.

drewsef · April 16, 2008 7:57AM

they don't care too much about the back of a fairly inexpensive modern card that is only a 9, at least that is what I have learned from looking at many. I even owned some modern 10's in the past with a noticeably dinged corner on the back or other problems, I think they grade the front as about 90+ percent of the grade on the modern stuff.

gameusedhoop · April 16, 2008 8:28AM

Good luck getting any $$ out of them if the card is not in the SMR. They only pay SMR price, not whatever you may have paid. The most you will get is some grading vouchers at best. Only useful if you've paid the $99 yearly fee to become a member.

clydecoolidge · April 17, 2008 2:58AM

<< <i>I'd be careful if I were you. There are some people on this board that insist PSA never screws up and if you question PSA's judgement you will be flamed to death. >>

I'm sure the OP appreciates such a constructive post. You're pretty much doing the same thing you're condemning. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that thinks PSA NEVER screws up since pretty much every company in the history of companies has/does. Malicious overstatements are as bad as malicious sarcasm. I think what you may be referring to is the constant defending of PSA required to fend off all of the flammers that come here from other grading companies only to try and convince all of us to distrust PSA which is both futile and sad. I prefer to play outside.

nam812 · April 17, 2008 3:04AM

<< <i>It would appear PSA hired Stevie Wonder but even Stevie could feel this gouge. >>

How can you say that with any certainty when you yourself have never felt it?

mbothner · April 17, 2008 4:23AM

If PSA has graded the card a 9 and they review it and it is not really a 9, they will regrade the card and compensate for the value difference. I have had this happen a few times.

StanTheManMusial · April 17, 2008 5:38AM

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<< <i>I'd be careful if I were you. There are some people on this board that insist PSA never screws up and if you question PSA's judgement you will be flamed to death. >>

I'm sure the OP appreciates such a constructive post. You're pretty much doing the same thing you're condemning. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that thinks PSA NEVER screws up since pretty much every company in the history of companies has/does. Malicious overstatements are as bad as malicious sarcasm. I think what you may be referring to is the constant defending of PSA required to fend off all of the flammers that come here from other grading companies only to try and convince all of us to distrust PSA which is both futile and sad. I prefer to play outside.

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Sure, all grading companies have shown some flaws here and there. Well, except for GAI. They always get it right.

Overgraded PSA card purchase

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