This probably violates some law but man, they're cool.

Blackborder · February 23, 2008 6:11AM

Ebay Link

CDsNuts · February 23, 2008 6:14AM

Agreed. He will probably get stopped, but I think that he did a damn good job.

SportsItUpCards · February 23, 2008 6:15AM

Pretty cool looking cards!

By the way, talking about breaking the law. I made another video, but this time it dosen't break any laws, so check it out if you would like

Giovanni

Estil · February 23, 2008 6:17AM

I would be VERY concerned by a seller like this one who can make convincing phony cards like those. I mean, what's to stop him, for example, from making fake Joran rookies or fake 1952 Topps Mantles?

JackWESQ · February 23, 2008 6:17AM

I'm an attorney in real life, but only play one here in the boards. That said, you generally cannot use someone's image or likeness for profit or gain without their permission.

/s/ JackWESQ

EAsports · February 23, 2008 6:25AM

What stock is he printing those on?

Me likey.

torc · February 23, 2008 6:27AM

Not to mention the Topps logo being used
But they are sweet looking cards though
Topps should employ this guy in their design department

elsnorto · February 23, 2008 6:29AM

I would think that in addition to it being illegal to use someone's image without their permission, it would also be illegal to use the Topps logo and possibly the photo itself. I admire the guys passion and work, but I personally will not buy unlicensed items such as this or the slew of other items on eBay out of principle.

Snorto~

gemmintrarities · February 23, 2008 6:35AM

Very sweet looking cards. I am not a lawyer, but can't he get aroud it somehow by also having say a 1998 Topps Nolan Ryan in the lot, and saying that if you buy the Ryan, I will throw in these custom cards for free? I thought as long as you didn't profit, then it was ok.

baseballfan · February 23, 2008 6:36AM

they do look very good!!

if i were a swann or steeler fan i would definetly pick them up before they go away.

Stone193 · February 23, 2008 6:53AM

<< I'm an attorney in real life, but only play one here in the boards. That said, you generally cannot use someone's image or likeness for profit or gain without their permission.

/s/ JackWESQ >>

Jack - if I'm correct this comes under the concept of Right to Publicity or intellectual property rights - or personal property rights?

What some may find interesting is that the precedent set by the court which defined the idea of "right to publicity" (as opposed to right of privacy) stemmed from a landmark decision involving Haelen Laboratories v. Topps Chewing Gum Company in 1953.

In essence the judge said - that signing a waiver of right of privacy to allow one's likeness on a baseball card e.g. - is actually a "right to publicity" - so no one else has a right to use that likeness without the express consent of the individual. Topps tried to argue that a waiver of the right to privacy as signed by a ballplayer for Bowman, e.g., is not transferable - so they felt they had a right to use the likeness.

So - our hobby has had an influence on legal rights still being applied today.

mike

edit: I think he did a fantastic job BTW.

storm888 · February 23, 2008 6:55AM

Nice looking cards.

toppsfootball · February 23, 2008 7:46AM

I wonder if I bought them would I be able to fool PSA, and they ended up grading them. LOL! Alot of 1 of 1's there!! Very authentic looking!

perkdog · February 23, 2008 7:50AM

Those are very nice cards, hes got NOTHING on Doran though! ( Heritageaddict )

WinPitcher · February 23, 2008 7:52AM

He also created cards for Earl Campbell.

He has received all Positives from the buyers thus far.

Sooner or later someone is going to think they are legit cards.

he also has a crappy DSR for Item as described.

Not sure what to make of that.

Steve

NYYanks23 · February 23, 2008 8:41AM

Those are great, the guy is very talented.

Blackborder · February 23, 2008 8:45AM

This one is really good from the Campbell set.

nam812 · February 23, 2008 9:20AM

The backs of the cards are impressive to me. Card fronts, while not easy, can be done by a lot of photoshop users, but those backs are really nice.

MeteoriteGuy · February 23, 2008 9:25AM

I think he did a great job as well...but they are a little pricey. $5 a set and I might bite.

bhl2359 · February 23, 2008 11:26AM

Doesn't Knuckles use images and team logos? What is the difference?

CDsNuts · February 23, 2008 11:32AM

He could also do cards that should've been like a 1984 Topps Elway as a Colt or a 1987 Fleer Len Bias.

Blackborder · February 23, 2008 12:03PM

<< He could also do cards that should've been like a 1984 Topps Elway as a Colt or a 1987 Fleer Len Bias. >>

I'd like to see a 1976 Merlin Olsen. I never understood why they didn't make that card. They made a 1979 Fran Tarkenton.

Leiascards · February 23, 2008 12:14PM

The players I believe fall under the celebrity ruling as far as using their likeness for profit or whatever. This is how the Papparazzi makes their money. When you put yourself in a high profile position you give up some of your rights in this regard. Topps is not going to really say anything until he starts mass producing them.

I would be more worried about him starting to come up with fakes of legitimate cards

jamesgotpoorman · February 23, 2008 12:16PM

Just a little pricey for something illegal.($5 set I'll also bite).

Just don't make fake cards.

Bottom9th · February 23, 2008 12:24PM

Being a Steelers, and a Lynn Swann fan, they really got me thinking. I wonder why Ebay has allowed them?

bsidegrve · February 23, 2008 3:02PM

Nice to see examples of what the cards could have looked like if made back then.....

neenish · February 24, 2008 1:57PM

Well I purchased a set of Swann cards just to see what they are made like and what card stock this seller is using. I'll update once I get them.

storm888 · February 24, 2008 4:55PM

I might buy some too.

I am just too lazy to pull the trigger and do the PayPal thing.

perkdog · February 24, 2008 10:17PM

The guy is very easy going, I emailed him and he is in the process of designing some Tom Brady cards as we speak...

neenish · February 25, 2008 3:34AM

He said he was making Brady, Bradshaw, Stabler and a few other cards right now.

CDsNuts · February 25, 2008 3:44AM

I think he should make cards of current players in the 1952 Topps design to see what they would look like...... Oh wait, Topps puts out 5 sets of those every year. Nevermind.

wolfbear · February 25, 2008 4:14AM

<< Well I purchased a set of Swann cards just to see what they are made like and what card stock this seller is using. I'll update once I get them. >>

I'd like to own the sets as well.
The paper stock is my only concern.

Please don't forget to let us know what they're like after you recieve them.

larryallen73 · February 25, 2008 5:22AM

Until Topps complains he can do whatever he wants. He would have to sell a lot before he gets a cease and decist letter from Topps I would think.

perkdog · February 25, 2008 5:28AM

The way I see it, he offered to make a set for me for $12, the guy was real cool and offered to send me some scans when hes done and told me if I didnt like them he would try different formats. I requested 52-55 Bowman and 55 Topps AA designs for the Brady, he mentioned if it didnt come out well he would try the 70/80's designs that he already has. I will post some pics when I get them..

jrinck · February 25, 2008 6:38AM

If it was me, I'd simply make the cards and just put them up on a website for all to see. No selling, so theoretically I can't get in trouble, right?

Blackborder · February 25, 2008 8:24AM

<< I think he should make cards of current players in the 1952 Topps design to see what they would look like...... Oh wait, Topps puts out 5 sets of those every year. Nevermind. >>

I think you're on to something. Maybe he could also do a Mickey Mantle set with every Topps/Bowman design ever made.

nightcrawler729 · February 25, 2008 11:19AM

Just wondering - why were there no more Lynn Swann cards after 1977 Topps? Some type of licensing dispute?

Blackborder · February 26, 2008 8:15AM

<< Just wondering - why were there no more Lynn Swann cards after 1977 Topps? Some type of licensing dispute? >>

Exactly. Same with Earl Campbell also.

SDSportsFan · February 26, 2008 8:30AM

<< 

<< Just wondering - why were there no more Lynn Swann cards after 1977 Topps? Some type of licensing dispute? >>

Exactly. Same with Earl Campbell also. >>

And Joe Namath after 1973.

Steve

Blackborder · March 7, 2008 9:11AM

<< Well I purchased a set of Swann cards just to see what they are made like and what card stock this seller is using. I'll update once I get them. >>

Did you get them yet?

ICE9 · March 7, 2008 10:37AM

I got the Campbell cards in the mail about a week ago, 'cause I'm into proof cards and oddball stuff. Also, I wanted to get them before the auction was pulled, which never happened.

Please don't get me wrong, these cards are great and a lot of effort went into getting the fonts and colors just right. However, no one is going to be fooled. They have a very flat finish (no gloss) and photo resolution is lower than the real thing, which makes the picture appear slightly fuzzy. They kinda look like a picture of a card. They are not on card stock. The tan color of the reverse is just that - a color. It appears that he prints the fronts and backs on two individual pieces and then glues or sticks them together.

Again, I applaude the effortand I'm satisfied with the quality - I gave him positive feedback. I wasn't expecting old school printing.

Let me know if you'd like a scan.

Mike

wolfbear · March 7, 2008 10:42AM

Thanks for the update!

neenish · March 7, 2008 11:02AM

I never received my cards, but he did refund me right away.

perkdog · March 7, 2008 11:04AM

He still hasnt gotten back to me about the Tom Brady cards

I never sent him any money, but would like to hear back from him!

Edit- I would love to see a few scans!

jvineyard · March 7, 2008 11:14AM

I bought a set of the Campbell cards - just for the two Saints versions. They are about what I expected, and pretty much as described by others.

If anyone would like the Oilers cards from the Campbell set, PM me your address and they're free to the first person to ask. (The Oilers cards have been claimed).

Brian48 · March 7, 2008 11:15AM

Legal or not, I love these cards!

Allen · March 7, 2008 11:19AM

I had him make a 1952 Topps Mantle card and when I get it I am going to go hide it in my grandpa's attic. A few days later I will go find it in the attic and list it on ebay. I am not sure if this card is real or not so I am selling it as a reprint.