buyers who take forever to pay

kingraider75 · February 2, 2008 3:11AM

a couple of recent buys are taking a couple of weeks to pay me. They have over 1100 feedback, etc etc. However, I looked at their feedback, and they have paid other sellers on items more recently won.

Anyways, at what point does the gang file the non paying bidder? at 20 days? I am pusing 15 days on these.

MeteoriteGuy · February 2, 2008 3:14AM

I have had that a lot lately as well. 201 items sold this month, 49 not paid for yet including two big ticket items. Perhaps people are waiting for tax refunds.

Blackborder · February 2, 2008 3:15AM

<< <i>a couple of recent buys are taking a couple of weeks to pay me. They have over 1100 feedback, etc etc. However, I looked at their feedback, and they have paid other sellers on items more recently won.

Anyways, at what point does the gang file the non paying bidder? at 20 days? I am pusing 15 days on these. >>

Most people would probably pull the trigger a little quicker but I usually don't contact the buyer after I send the invoice until 10-14 days later. Then another contact a week later or so. So, that puts me at 20-30 days before I give up.

kingraider75 · February 2, 2008 3:18AM

These are for $20 cards, so not huge money, but still. What I hate worse is that they are paying for their other items. Neither one has mailed a check, but I can check the PO Box again to see.

hankcaddy · February 2, 2008 3:18AM

i usually wait 14 days, to file npb
about 25% then pay , 25% pay within the 8 days and the remainder don't pay
i seem to be getting more npb now than ever before , small dollar items.
pain in the butt

WinPitcher · February 2, 2008 3:19AM

Maybe you should demand payment within 24 hrs. That way they would only be 2 or 3 days late. Just kidding of course.

Steve

Edited to add: anyone else notice that the emoticons are not working? or is it just me?

kingraider75 · February 2, 2008 3:30AM

update: one buyer told me would paypal as soon as he puts some money in the bank.

kingraider75 · February 2, 2008 3:34AM

yeah good point on the economy trickling down to Ebay

storm888 · February 2, 2008 3:35AM

I have never had many NPBs in any item category.

I have always waited 30-days to file the NPB.

99% of folks pay me - in the collectible category -
within 24 hours. Most pay before I can even send
an invoice.

I suspect as more people fall on hard economic times,
the general NPB problem may get worse for many
sellers.

rambler61 · February 2, 2008 3:49AM

Put on your auction payment due within 7 days or whatever, after that, don't wait any longer.

torc · February 2, 2008 4:30AM

<< <i>Put on your auction payment due within 7 days or whatever, after that, don't wait any longer. >>

Ditto
and you can bet the buyer won't hesitate to put a Paypal claim if they don't receive in due time as well.

I had one guy give me the "hospital" story. And not having access to a computer.
He paid after I filed the NPB and gave him neg feedback and told me that the neg wasn't merited.
I refunded immediately
LOL, caught him with his pants down, I copied his latest purchases, all 6 after mine, spanning the entire week. No access huh?
Even had a few with pos feedback on how quickly he paid, all within the time I was waiting for payment. Copied and mailed him that, along with his recent negs for NPB from other sellers.
Also contacted one of his NPB sellers, who also told me the guy used a "hospital" excuse, this 5 months ago.

Haven't heard a thing from him since. I hate liars, at least cover your tracks if your going to lie about it

HighChopper · February 2, 2008 5:22AM

I've gotten really bad at this lately.

Been buying but very slow to pay.

I am a bad person.

GOODLIEU · February 2, 2008 7:12AM

Its probably going to get worse when EBAY's Seller's have no feedback option policy kicks in.

F1ferrari · February 2, 2008 7:52AM

<< <i>Its probably going to get worse when EBAY's Seller's have no feedback option policy kicks in. >>

Not necessarily. If the auction states a 'pay within 7 days' policy, then at the end of the 7th day, file an unpaid item complaint. If a buyer gets enough strikes against their account, they will be removed from eBay. This is the seller's recourse in the future if buyers don't pay. Ebay has to eat the fees and allow the seller to list again.

Stingray · February 2, 2008 7:58AM

I have a transaction, it is 9 days old. I give 10 days to pay I state in my auctions. I did email him on day 6 asking if he could at least let me know if he was mailing payment or what. A response would be nice, but nothing. We shall see on day 10 what happens??

BobaFett72 · February 2, 2008 8:17AM

"I've gotten really bad at this lately.

Been buying but very slow to pay.

I am a bad person.'

yes, yes you are. extra black spots on your soul...its turning black.. pretty soon you'll end up in purgatory; keep it up and youll end up in hell lol..

storm888 · February 2, 2008 8:31AM

"If a buyer gets enough strikes against their account, they will be removed from eBay.
This is the seller's recourse in the future if buyers don't pay."

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

The word "enough" is the operative one.

The first strike is ALWAYS removed when the buyer contacts T&S
and requests it.

At last week's press-conference, a loony lady from EBAY T&S said,

"If a buyer maliciously bid on 20 different auctions and did not pay, they would probably be suspended."

.................................

EBAY....... NEG Victoriously !

kingraider75 · February 3, 2008 6:05AM

I love and hate ebay!! lol

F1ferrari · February 3, 2008 6:14AM

<< <i>"If a buyer maliciously bid on 20 different auctions and did not pay, they would probably be suspended." >>

Hmmm, well up until I read that quote I was thinking this change could be for the good, but it it's going to take 20 strikes to get a buyer booted this may not be such a good think.

BTW, does anyone have any idea how many strikes an account gets before suspension?

firstbase23 · February 3, 2008 7:38AM

I thought buyers were suspended when they recieved 3 strikes.

gamehunter · February 3, 2008 8:43AM

<I thought buyers were suspended after they recieved 3 strikes

Not hardly. There are buyers active after 50 strikes. Regardless of the FVF refund, eBay still makes money from the listing fees when a seller fails to relist, which is often (sells via another venue, etc.)

F1ferrari · February 3, 2008 8:57AM

Maybe there is a solution there, along with feedback any strikes against a buyer should also be stated. That would allow sellers to block certain buyers that might be a potential problem since feedback is out of the question.

Leiascards · February 3, 2008 5:51PM

There is no 3 strike rule, however like feedback if a buyer buys 50 items from a seller and does not pay for them this is counted as one strike not 50. Usually 3 or 4 unique NPBs will do the trick.

However if a buyer does the bidding maliciously then yes they should be suspended. But wait Ebay made that harder to prove by making you have to wait 3 days before any feedback can be placed.

GOODLIEU · February 4, 2008 2:32AM

Lets face it this new EBAY feedback policy will change the "EBAY Community/Member" that they encouraged since day one where the members as they said "worked it out " amongst themselves. This will create a clear distinction between Seller/Buyers with EBAY as the Referee. Wether or not it will work remains to be seen.

Stingray · February 4, 2008 2:34AM

I just got a response from a buyer who has not payed and it has been now 11 days. I have had to the flu for the last 4 days and that he will pay for the cards, not to worry. I tell him, what happen to the 6 days prior when you could have paid?? I guess I will see since he can give a response, if he can get on to Paypal and pay??

EDIT: Ok, I just got a response, the buyer sends a message that he sending payment by money order or cashiers check.

ebayaddict · February 4, 2008 3:06AM

7-10 days!

ripkenintheminors · February 4, 2008 3:27AM

I just had a fun situation with a seller. I wasn't sure if I had the PayPal funds for an item and knew it would be close. I sent him a message asking the payment deadline with an explanation. "Bid away" he said and that he'd give me the time to transfer the funds. The auction ended and I offered to pay what I had + an additional transfer of funds directly to him. He pointed that he doesn't "give out his PayPal" ID and to make the payment once the transfer happened. 1 business day later he's all over me telling me that he's expecting the payment.

Yikes.

Allen · February 4, 2008 3:44AM

I go down the list and send winning bidder notifications everyday to those who have not paid. I figure they get tired of seeing the "You won on ebay" email and checking to see if they won something new and they will go ahead and pay. As soon as the NPB option is available, I file and request the FVF credit as soon as it is available. Out of about 150 items in the last month or so I have had only 3 non payers, one was a (-3) feedback within one day and another was (2) feedback. The other guy was 50 or 60 feedback, but he was too lazy to send me $1.00

buyers who take forever to pay

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