The official 1990 Notre Dame autographed card thread

gregm13 · November 24, 2007 1:02PM

All,

I recently decided to build an autographed set of the 1990 Notre Dame blue set....and created the 200 card checklist. Of the 200 cards, 155 are individual player cards and 45 are team/game cards. Of the 155 individual player cards, 30 died before the set was released and 125 were alive and are possible.

The 30 "impossible" players were and years of death:

Stacey Toran 1989
Knute Rockne 1931
George Gipp 1920
Jim White 1987
Louis "Red" Salmon 1965
Gus Dorais 1954
Wayne Miller 1976
Jack Cannon 1967
Joe Kurth 1987
Tommy Yarr 1941
Fred Miller 1954
Jesse Harper 1961
Don Miller 1979
Heartly (Hunk) Anderson 1978
Earl "Curly" Lambeau 1965
Harry Stuhldreher 1965
Bert Metzger 1986
Bill Shakespeare 1974
Adam Walsh 1985
Nick Pietrosante 1988
Zygmont "Ziggy" Czarobski 1984
Elmer Layden 1973
Frank Rydzewski 1955?
Art "Bud" Boeringer 1980
John "Clipper" Smith 1984
Frank Leahy 1973
Emil "Red" Sitko 1973
Eddie Anderson 1974
Roger Kiley 1974
Ray Eichenlaub 1949

So far, I have signed cards of:

Joe Theismann
George Kunz
Lou Holtz
Tony Rice
Ralph Guglielmi
Terry Hanratty
Frank Varrichione
Ara Parseghian
John Lattner
John Huarte
Tony Yelovich
John Lujack
Bob Kuechenberg
Bob Williams
Bill Fischer
Neil Worden
Don Schaefer

Let me know if anyone else is interested in the set...I'd love to chat with anyone about it.

Regards,

Greg M.

downtown · November 24, 2007 3:47PM

Edward W. Krause
1943-44, 1946-47 to 1950-51

Krause competed in track, football, baseball, and basketball while enrolled at Notre Dame from 1930-34. In three seasons as an Irish basketball player, he scored 547 points, led Notre Dame to a 54-12 record and was named to the All-American team in each of the years. Krause graduated cum laude with a degree in journalism in 1934. He accepted a job to coach St. Mary's (Minn.) College in basketball and football. He also served as athletic director and baseball, track, golf and tennis coach. In 1942, he returned to Notre Dame as an assistant football and basketball coach. When George Keogan died in 1943, Krause assumed the job as head basketball coach which he held for six seasons. He guided the Irish to a 98-48 mark (.671) in those six years including a 20-4 record in his first full season. On February 7, 1948, Krause was appointed assistant athletic director at Notre Dame. He was elevated on March 22, 1949 to the head position, which he held for 32 years. Krause was inducted into the National Basketball Hall of Fame in 1976. He passed away on Dec. 10, 1992.

gregm13 · November 24, 2007 6:36PM

Downtown,

Thank you very much - another one down!

Regards,

Greg M.

tnspro · November 25, 2007 12:21AM

Greg,

Is their any birthdate information on the back of the players?

Oldest Living NFL Players

baseballfan · November 25, 2007 5:40AM

greg
i'm very interested in the set. i have 4 or 5 going out this week. i also have/had a graded set of these started, very slim pickins in graded form. i just today, before i saw your thread, pull my set in the binder and i have 4 or 5 ready to go. i think its a great set. do you have any graded? i would also be interested in exchanging some address if possible. i also have an unopened case of wax. i have just always like that set ever since i first saw it. i was looking for a TTM idea and came up this as well. i was thinking of getting the bowl games cards signed by players involved/available who played in those games. let's discuss the great set.
fred

here's who i have:
theismann
rice
kiel
hanratty
furjanic
yelovich
clements
heap
panelli (nat champs 46 & 47)
vaas
carney
guglielmi
page
cerrato
montana
kuechenberg
lynch
bob williams
lujack
lattner
kunz
duranko
ara Parseghian
worden
tripucka
bleier
hayes
seymour
varrichione
buoniconti
heater
schaefer
dinardo
fischer
browner
conjar
bumpas
mike golic
zilly
burgmeier
ellis
mccoy
regner
scully
ho
jim browner
l. dinardo
sip holtz
t. huffman
hughes
phelan
gradel
burger
creaney
macafee
dingens
cordelli
pinkett
moriarty
Heavens

41GoudeyGuy · November 25, 2007 12:09PM

According to this link Vince Phelan played in a 2004 alumni game. Put him in the "possible" column. No idea where he is now though.

2004 Alumni Game Report with Vince Phelan

Reggie Barrett played in the NFL in 1991 and 1992. Put him in the "possible" column.

Reggie Barrett at www.pro-football-reference.com

Here's an article on Tom Gibbons. Put him in the "possible" column.

Catching up with Tom Gibbons

Larry DiNardo is listed as alive in his player bio.

Larry DiNardo Bio

Catching up with Phil Carter

Catching up with Jerome Heavens

Catching up with Mike Townsend

Tom Gatewood is a Possible

Demmerle passed away in 2007. He is possible

Tony Yelovich alive and well at Notre Dame

Vinny Cerato was working with the Redskins as recently as 2005 and may still be there.

Gary Darnell is still alive and coaching

Ditto on Peter Vaas

Christie Flanagan passed away in 1991...

Pete Cordelli quoted in this 1998 article

That's it for tonight. This gets the unknown list quite a bit smaller.

gregm13 · November 26, 2007 3:44AM

41 Goudy Guy,

Thank you VERY much!! I have updated the list accordingly (the Phil Carter link didn't work...can you repost). I e-mailed Tony Yelovich and he will sign my card....sweet. He also confirmed the Joe Moore died in 2005..so now there are only 18 guys that I'm unsure of whether they're alive.

I sent off a request today to Joe Montana w/ all 3 of his cards from the set. I'll cross my fingers that he'll sign but I'm very skeptical...

I'm stoked!!

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · November 26, 2007 3:54AM

<< greg
i'm very interested in the set. i have 4 or 5 going out this week. i also have/had a graded set of these started, very slim pickins in graded form. i just today, before i saw your thread, pull my set in the binder and i have 4 or 5 ready to go. i think its a great set. do you have any graded? i would also be interested in exchanging some address if possible. i also have an unopened case of wax. i have just always like that set ever since i first saw it. i was lookinf for a TTM idea and came up this as well. i was thinking of getting the bowl games cards signed by players involved/available who played in those games. let's discuss the great set.
fred >>

Fred,

That's great...are you grading the signed or unsigned cards? Just curious. I may eventually slab the signed cards...but that's a long term aspiration. I want to concentrate on sending out 4 or 5 cards a week...but it seems that quite a few players will be hard to track down. What source are you using for addresses?

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · November 26, 2007 4:33AM

Revised again for Doug's generous e-mail.

Regards,

Greg M.

41GoudeyGuy · November 26, 2007 6:59AM

Try this Phil Carter link

41GoudeyGuy · November 26, 2007 7:07AM

Put Ted Gradel down in the possible column. Here is an autographed Gradel card up for sale on ebay.

Gradel Autographed Card

gregm13 · November 26, 2007 7:07AM

<< Try this Phil Carter link >>

That one works - thank you very much. I e-mailed Tony Yelovich today and he said to mail him the card to sign. Very sweet....I have SO many more to go!! Are you building the set?

Regards,

Greg M.

41GoudeyGuy · November 26, 2007 7:12AM

For what it's worth, this page lists Joe Kurth's date of Death as 1/16/1987. That would put him in the "no" column.

Joe Kurth Discussion

gregm13 · November 26, 2007 7:28AM

<< For what it's worth, this page lists Joe Kurth's date of Death as 1/16/1987. That would put him in the "no" column.

Joe Kurth Discussion >>

You're a machine!! Only 6 more to go!

Greg M.

gregm13 · November 26, 2007 7:33AM

Just found an article on Dick (Richard) Arrington - he died in 1993 so he is possible.

Dick Arrington

Greg M.

41GoudeyGuy · November 26, 2007 10:35AM

<< 

<< Try this Phil Carter link >>

That one works - thank you very much. I e-mailed Tony Yelovich today and he said to mail him the card to sign. Very sweet....I have SO many more to go!! Are you building the set?

Regards,

Greg M. >>

I'm not building the set but enjoy the search. I'm living in South Bend so I thought it would be worth the time to see what I could find out about these former Domers.

Did you see the Ted Gradel card that was up for sale on ebay with an autograph? I can't verify the authenticity but I'm leaning toward authentic. That would get the list down to 4.

Brian

41GoudeyGuy · November 26, 2007 10:44AM

According to the Social Security Death Index Roger Kiley died in September, 1974.

ROGER KILEY 23 Oct 1900 Sep 1974 60604 (Chicago, Cook, IL) (none specified) 354-36-5359 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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Chuck Sweeney died in 1999 so he's a possible:

CHARLES A SWEENEY 05 May 1914 31 Jul 1999 (V) 46615 (South Bend, St Joseph, IN) (none specified) 446-07-5484 Oklahoma SS-5 Letter
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gregm13 · November 26, 2007 12:13PM

<< 

<< 

<< Try this Phil Carter link >>

That one works - thank you very much. I e-mailed Tony Yelovich today and he said to mail him the card to sign. Very sweet....I have SO many more to go!! Are you building the set?

Regards,

Greg M. >>

I'm not building the set but enjoy the search. I'm living in South Bend so I thought it would be worth the time to see what I could find out about these former Domers.

Did you see the Ted Gradel card that was up for sale on ebay with an autograph? I can't verify the authenticity but I'm leaning toward authentic. That would get the list down to 4.

Brian >>

Agreed - that makes sense since he was in the class of 1987 or 1988.

Regards,

Greg M.

gregm13 · November 26, 2007 12:13PM

<< According to the Social Security Death Index Roger Kiley died in September, 1974.

ROGER KILEY 23 Oct 1900 Sep 1974 60604 (Chicago, Cook, IL) (none specified) 354-36-5359 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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Chuck Sweeney died in 1999 so he's a possible:

CHARLES A SWEENEY 05 May 1914 31 Jul 1999 (V) 46615 (South Bend, St Joseph, IN) (none specified) 446-07-5484 Oklahoma SS-5 Letter
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3 more down...only 2 more to go!

Greg M.

downtown · November 26, 2007 1:54PM

databasebFOOTBALL.com

James Joseph William White
Position: T
Height: 6' 2'' Weight: 227
Born: 2/8/1920, in Edgewater, NJ, USA (This date in Notre Dame history has him born Feb 7th)
High School: All Hallows (Bronx, NY)
College: University of Notre Dame

Played 5 years in NFL with NY Giants 1946-1950

JAMES WHITE 08 Feb 1920 Apr 1987 07628 (Dumont, Bergen, NJ) (none specified) 135-18-7073 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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or

JAMES W WHITE 07 Feb 1920 01 Apr 1997 (P) (72) (none specified) 721-07-0912 Long-time or retired railroad workers SS-5 Letter
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baseballfan · November 26, 2007 11:57PM

greg
i sent mine out to montana as well, just one though, its my understanding that he signs only one card. i just got signed up to sportscollectors.net. i sent out theismann, montana and hanratty, i'll let you know of my success/failure. how about you have you been sending though the mail? i have about 10+ graded (unsigned) mostly 10's and 1 of 1's, some 9's, but i have been getting them graded unsigned. i have a lead on page and rice as well once i get them nailed down i'll let you know. got any scans?
fred

downtown · November 27, 2007 9:28PM

Jim White auto 1950 bowman from another thread....maybe owner knows if he is alive or not

Jim White Auto

baseballfan · November 27, 2007 11:22PM

i sent rube a PM we'll see

baseballfan · November 28, 2007 5:10AM

just heard back from rube, he said jim white passed away. i asked when i'll post it if he knows.

tnspro · November 28, 2007 5:59AM

Jim White died April 1987

downtown · November 28, 2007 8:44AM

thanx tnspro
that was 1 of the 2 dates I have found in a SSDI search...

gregm13 · November 30, 2007 10:22AM

Thanks guys on the Jim White - that only leaves one more!!! By the way, I sent out 4 more TTMs today:

Tony Furjanic
Jim Lynch
Joe Heap
Ernie Hughes

Cross my fingers!! I have to get the next batch ready to go!

Regards,

Greg M.

baseballfan · December 1, 2007 7:35AM

i sent out allen page today

i'm waiting to get my first back now myself.

gregm13 · December 2, 2007 12:13AM

Updated list of who I have signed. I just received Tony Yelovich back:

Joe Theismann
George Kunz
Lou Holtz
Tony Rice
Ralph Guglielmi
Terry Hanratty
Frank Varrichione
Ara Parseghian
John Lattner
John Huarte
Tony Yelovich
John Lujack
Bob Kuechenberg
Bob Williams
Bill Fischer
Neil Worden
Don Schaefer

Greg M.

gregm13 · December 2, 2007 12:13AM

Has anyone found anything out about Jack Robinson?

Greg M.

gregm13 · December 2, 2007 12:15AM

I'm sending 7 more out

Pete Duranko
Alan Page
Jay Hayes
Dick Bumpas
Tom Regner
Blair Kiel
Art Hunter

Here's hoping to continued success.

Regards,

Greg M.

41GoudeyGuy · December 2, 2007 1:09AM

<< Has anyone found anything out about Jack Robinson?

Greg M. >>

Greg,

I suggest you get back in touxh with Tony Yelovich. He works in the sports department at Notre Dame and has more resources than we do. He got you the autograph back real quick and I bet he'd be able to answer the Jack Robinson question quickly also.

Brian

gregm13 · December 2, 2007 2:19PM

I just found that Jack Robinson died in 2001. All have now been accounted for!

Greg M.

gregm13 · December 4, 2007 1:35PM

I just received back 2 auto'd 1990 ND cards and a IC from Tony Furjanic who lives around 15 miles from me (Orland Park, IL). Very cool.

Greg M.

baseballfan · December 5, 2007 12:55AM

greg no scans??

love to see them.
i'll post scans as soon as i get some returns.

fred

baseballfan · December 6, 2007 9:08AM

here's my first, one of my favorite players

downtown · December 6, 2007 2:09PM

Unfortunate distinction of Rice's
from Wikipedia: Was the only starter on the 1988 National Championship Team never to play in the NFL.

gregm13 · December 6, 2007 2:31PM

<< Unfortunate distinction of Rice's
from Wikipedia: Was the only starter on the 1988 National Championship Team never to play in the NFL. >>

I always liked Tony Rice. How long did he play in the Canadian league?

Regards,

Greg M.

baseballfan · December 6, 2007 11:55PM

the way he played that year, he never had to play in the NFL to be a legend in south bend. my favorite was anthony johnson a fullback and ned bolcar LB. neither played long in the NFL but they'll always be my favorite football players

baseballfan · December 8, 2007 2:56AM

got these 2 yesterday

baseballfan · December 10, 2007 7:57AM

got these today john "pep" panelli signed the back of the national championship teams he was on

gregm13 · December 11, 2007 2:12AM

Very nice -thanks for sharing. I'll post my scans soon. I just received back Jim Lynch, Pete Duranko and Joe Heap...

Greg M.

baseballfan · December 13, 2007 11:28PM

just got back heap and clements on 2 cards.

i'll scan when i can

JeremyDie1 · December 14, 2007 6:57AM

Great stuff guys!!

baseballfan · December 16, 2007 1:59AM

newbies

gregm13 · December 17, 2007 5:15AM

Some of my recent autographs:

Regards,

Greg M.

baseballfan · December 17, 2007 5:43AM

very nice!!!!

downtown · December 17, 2007 10:51AM

I received Joe Montana today. I do not like the way it looks. Ghostsigned?

I also sent the Pro set card of his wife, which was sent back unsigned...which leads to the question of why Ghostsign one and not the other?

DR

baseballfan · December 17, 2007 11:41PM

i know he usually only signs one card no matter how many you send.

gregm13 · December 21, 2007 11:19PM

Does anyone know how to contact Al Ecuyer? Supposedly he is a Vice President of Prudential Securities...but I can't find an address for him. Can anyone help?

Regards,

Greg M.

tnspro · December 22, 2007 2:08AM

Montana, Bradshaw and Singletary (just to name a few) are FAKE/GHOSTSIGNED through the mail....have been and will be. Don't full yourself.

That Montana is not even close to his signature.

The official 1990 Notre Dame autographed card thread

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