fake vintage cards on ebay can this guy do that?

1neatstuff · October 23, 2007 3:36PM

there is a seller on ebay right now selling fake mantles and other cards on ebay..now he tells you that they are fake but on the back they dont say reprint anywhere on there...i didnt think you could do that this is amazing to me...and some have sold at decent prices..his ebay name is greenfrog48..very creepy to me if you can do this and how is he reprinting them?

christopherking · October 23, 2007 4:05PM

how do you even know what those cards look like? none of his scans will even load up on the auction page, at least not on my computer. Went and looked at other sellers auctions to make sure my computer wasn't acting up.

yankeeno7 · October 23, 2007 4:47PM

I saw the pics just fine. Other than copywrite infringement he is saying that they are not original and they are reproductions. Unless Topps or anyone who owns the name rights of these players go after him then he will be continued to allow such sales.
He's getting ridiculous prices for these crap repints. Fools and their money soon part!

nam812 · October 23, 2007 9:59PM

<< <i>some have sold at decent prices >>

One.....not some....sold for $200+ and it was in a PSA 8 holder with matching cert number, said to be a "novelty card in a PSA holder to fool your friends." That one is a big problem if you ask me. Some show dealer will buy that and put it in his showcase. Doing a little checking it seems he's sold about 5 of his raw "reprints" for between $10 and $20 all the while fully disclosing their fakeness.

yankeeno7 · October 23, 2007 10:01PM

oops

1neatstuff · October 24, 2007 6:41AM

will i guess he can as long as there are buyers out there for this crap..still hard to believe people would buy this stuff unless they are going to try and burn someone else

nam812 · October 24, 2007 6:43AM

<< <i>hard to believe people would buy this stuff unless they are going to try and burn someone else >>

Now you got it.

cravetopps · October 24, 2007 8:20AM

<< hard to believe people would buy this stuff unless they are going to try and burn someone else >>

<<<Now you got it. >>>>

nam812 is correct. I bought one of these fake cards from a different seller (a 1956 Mantle) several years ago. Of course the seller (NARU) said it was raw (authentic) but I got burned (not too badly).

This is definitely a copyright issue but I would be surprised if Topps or MLB does anything about it.

1neatstuff · October 24, 2007 9:49AM

i understand that but i just wonder who is making these fakes? i mean does someone have the right paper and a printer in there basement that can make these look so real?

Barfvader · October 24, 2007 11:31AM

This persons auctions can be reported for two things.

1. Authenticity Disclaimers

UP FOR AUCTION IS ONE 1953 TOPPS CARD OF MICKEY MANTLE. CARD NUMBER IS 82.

CARD IS NOT AUTHENTICATED SO IS BEING SOLD AS A REPRINT.

Awhile back when myself and some others actually had a contact at eBay that was helping to rid the site of these type of auctions he stated that when eBay saw the underlined text in an auction that we reported it clearly broke their authenticity disclaimer policy. But seems that our contact was doing to good of a job (remember that every auction pulled is a potential loss of cash for eBay) and although he is still working for eBay he is no longer actively helping in the removing of these types of auctions and sellers.

2. Unauthorized Or Counterfeit Trading Cards (This can be accessed on the auction page itself)

Basically the same deal as above as most authorized reprints actually state they are a reprint and usually differ in some way from the original. Plus eBay is supposed to have a list of cards that are highly counterfeited and supposedly don't allow the sales of them unless they are graded. Now I have yet to find an actual policy that states that but there has been sellers that have received an email from eBay telling them that they can not sell the cards on the list without them having been graded but this hidden policy seems to hit various sellers whenever eBay wants to and does not seem to affect every seller trying to sell what is on this supposed list.

So anyone that wants to can give a shot at reporting them, our contact said that the more who report the more they feel compelled to look into the listings. Doesn't mean they will remove them but doesn't take all that long to report this stuff.

Jeff

fake vintage cards on ebay can this guy do that?

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