Whats the highest grade a creased card might get?

QUIK · October 12, 2007 11:45AM

I have a vintage card that has 2 small creases but is real nice nm condition besides that. Am i knocked down to a psa 1 or can a card with crease get a 2 or 3 or higher ? Thanks

ldferg · October 12, 2007 11:47AM

i thought a 5 was the highest a creased card could receive.

TJMAC · October 12, 2007 11:49AM

A 4.

A761506 · October 12, 2007 11:51AM

A card with a crease will generally be limited to a PSA 4, but the crease would have to be pretty insignificant. PSA 5's are for cards with a small surface wrinkle. Generally if there are multiple wrinkles or a single larger wrinkle, that'll get it into a PSA 4. More than likely, you'd be looking at a PSA 3 based on the description you gave.

ldferg · October 12, 2007 12:05PM

a7, thanks for clarifying that. the 5s i've been receiving have been due to surface wrinkles....have to hit the light just right on some of them.

mbothner · October 12, 2007 12:46PM

I bought this card from a very reputable dealer as NM. It is well centered which is quite rare for this particular card. I was happy to get it and thought it would grade well. It was not until I got it back and held the card on an angle that I could see the slight crease going through the card.

ldferg · October 12, 2007 12:51PM

wow, from eye appeal alone, that is a very nice 2.

OAKESY25 · October 12, 2007 12:58PM

that is a rediculous 2... how in the world can they call that a 2?

mbothner · October 12, 2007 1:08PM

I guess I can brag and say I have the best PSA 2.

psafan · October 12, 2007 3:15PM

I guess it could get a 10 if PSA misses it

stevek · October 12, 2007 3:18PM

Is there paper loss on the back?

stevek · October 12, 2007 3:19PM

Also the card could have water damage.

mbothner · October 12, 2007 10:01PM

No paper loss. The back is even better then the front. After looking at the front again, I would not even call it a crease just a wrinkle.

jay0791 · October 12, 2007 11:49PM

I agree...yeras ago I sent in 5 cards that all looked like psa 9's. I didn't screen them very well as I was hurried to get the sub out.
Suprise !!!!!!! (5) psa 5's...after close inspection....very tiny surface wrinkles were evident. Any defect worse than that will get you a 4 at best. Hope that helps. btw that is an awesome psa 2. jay

frankhardy · October 13, 2007 12:03AM

That card is a ridiculous 2. Even if it has a noticeable crease, it's a strong 3. I minor paper wrinkle can warrant a 5.

Back to the original question. I have had a card get a 7 because of a surface wrinkle on the back. I really wondered why it got a 7 because (otherwise) it was a lock 9 and a decent shot at 10. It was a 1985 Donruss Roger Clemens. Corners were razor sharp, perfect centering, and no print defects or stains. I looked it over real good after I got it back in a bright light, and I saw the surface wrinkle on the back, plain as day. Yes, it got a 7.

With me, there must be some bad omen between me and 1985 Donruss Roger Clemens rookie cards. That 7 was the first one I have ever sent in. Within the past couple of years, I have sent in 2 more Clemens rookies from factory sets, and the both came back 6's. These are cards that I thought were (again) 9's or 10's. On these, however, I could not find one single flaw. I could not find a paper wrinkle, even with a loupe. I will have to give PSA a little credit, though. One of those 6's, I have broken out and sent in 3, yes 3, times (all on specials). Each time, it comes back a 6. Remember, this is a card that looks absolutely perfect. They must see something each time. Maybe their light is better than mine.

By the way, those are the only three 85 Donruss Clemens rookies that I have ever sent in - one 7, and two 6's. I am a little gun shy with that card now.

stown · October 13, 2007 2:52AM

I crease shouldn't get higher than a 4, surface wrinkle a 5.

Since it's a great looking card, you should consider resubmitting and perhaps bumping it to a 3 or 4.

Edited to add: Did you happen to purchase that card from Great Lakes?

A761506 · October 14, 2007 12:07PM

mbothner - you should turn on your Private Messages... I can help you with your Pritchard card.

Whats the highest grade a creased card might get?

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