My New Man Crush - Charlie Gehringer

kmnorton · September 18, 2007 4:17PM

The one image that stood out after looking at Charles Conlon's book was that of Charlie Gehringer and how he looked EXACTLY the same over a 10 year span. This is the complete opposite of the pictures of Grover Cleveland and others that showed the ravages of time and abuse. The two photos are remarkable in that he hasn't changed a bit. The same slightly dead eyes and small mouth. As I started to research him and his career, I had no idea what a remarkable player he was, just that he always seemed to be giving the photographer the death ray. That, and he has a beautiful signature.

Since I tend to go after sets rather than players in this hobby of ours, I have never known what to do when the urge strikes to go after 1 (or 2 or 3) guys. I looked online and noticed that his auto can be had for relatively cheap and thought I would start there. I don't have the funds (or that deep of a crush) to try and assemble all his cards, but who knows. I saw some really nice Perez-Steele cards that he signed and may just go after different autos. I know Beckett has a listing for post-war cards that you can search for all the cards a certain player has. Is there something for the older cards where I can see what kind of undertaking I'm in for?

Stone193 · September 18, 2007 4:23PM

I agree!

And he has a great sig!

Prices for his stuff seem to be a bit more now than last year?

This one closed at about 60$.

mike

milbroco · September 18, 2007 9:51PM

Yes he was quite a ball player. What always amazed me was his knack for not striking out. He never struck out more than 42 times a season. One of his best years was 1936 when he had 641 At Bats and only 13 Strikeouts. That year he also had 15 HR's, 116 RBI's, and a .354 batting average. But like I said, the stat that really amazes me was his 641 at bats with only 13 strikeouts.
Bob

And yes, he does have a great Sig!

Ladder7 · September 18, 2007 11:51PM

Great nickname and numbers too!

Charlie's HOF clip

BunchOBull · September 19, 2007 12:06AM

Kurt,

I have no idea where to find that information, but I've never gone after such a project. I'm sure someone has an idea.

So to help get on topic, is there a "by player" master checklist for pre-war players?

Ross

Griffins · September 19, 2007 12:27AM

Brett Domue's site is exactly what you're looking for
Pre War HOFers

Agreed on your choice of players-Gehringer is my favorite pre War player. It was said he said hello in spring training, goodbye on the last day of the season, and hit .340 in between. Just shut up and got the job done.

Set ACC Description
1926 Exhibits
1927 Exhibits
1928 Star Player Candy
1929 Kashin Publications R316
1929 Kashin Publications-Large Size R316-A
1929-30 Four-on-One Exhibits W463-1
1931-32 Four-on-One Exhibits W463-2
1933 Canadian Butterfinger V94
1933 DeLong R333 5
1933 Double Header Pins PX3
1933 Four-on-One Exhibits W463-3
1933 George C. Miller R300 Fox / Klien on Back
1933 George C. Miller R300 Foxx / Klein on Back
1933 Goudey R319 222
1933 Minneapolis Star Worch Tobacco
1933 Tattoo Orbit R308 183
1934 Al Demaree Die-cuts 22
1934 Butterfinger - Cardboard R310
1934 Butterfinger - Paper R310
1934 Diamond Matchbook First Series-Silver Border U1
1934 Four-on-One Exhibits W463-4 with Cochrane, Goslin
1934 Goudey R320 23
1934 Tigers Team Issue
1934 Ward's Sporties PB6
1934 World Wide Gum V354 57
1934-36 Batter Up R318 42
1934-36 Batter Up R318 130
1934-36 Diamond Stars R327 77 1935 Blue
1934-36 Diamond Stars R327 77 1935 Green
1934-36 Diamond Stars R327 77 1936 Blue
1935 Detroit Free Press
1935 Detroit Times Sports Stamps Charles
1935 Detroit Times Sports Stamps Chas.
1935 Four-on-One Exhibits W563-5 with Cochrane, Goslin
1935 George Burke Tigers Photo Stamps
1935 Goudey R321 with Cochrane (1D,2D,6D,7D)
1936 Four-on-One Exhibits W463-6 with Cochrane, Goslin
1936 Goudey "Wide Pen" Premiums - Type A R314
1936 Goudey "Wide Pen" Premiums - Type C R314
1936 National Chicle Co. "Fine Pen" R313
1936 Overland Candy R301 With Ingredients
1936 Overland Candy R301 Without Ingredients
1936 R311 Leather Finish R311
1936 S & S Game WG8
1936 Wheaties-Series 4
1936 Wheaties-Series 5 6
1936 World Wide Gum V355 41
1936-37 Felt Pennants-Type I BF3
1936-37 Felt Pennants-Type III BF3
1937 Dixie Lids F7-1
1937 Dixie Lids Premiums
1937 Four-on-One Exhibits W463-7 with Cochrane, Goslin
1937 O-Pee-Chee V300 112
1937 Wheaties-Series 6 4
1937 Wheaties-Series 8
1938 Foto Fun R329
1938 Four-on-One Exhibits W463-8 with Greenberg
1938 Goudey R323 241
1938 Goudey R323 265
1938 Our National Game Pins PM8
1938 Wheaties-Series 10 14
1938 Wheaties-Series 11
1938 Wheaties-Series 15 Batting
1938 Wheaties-Series 15 Leaping
1939 Goudey Premiums R303-A
1939 Play Ball R334 50 Upper
1939 Play Ball R334 50 Upper & Lower
1939 Play Ball Samples 50 Upper
1939 Play Ball Samples 50 Upper & Lower
1939 Trimmed Premiums V351-B
1939 World Wide Gum V351-A
1939-46 Salutation Exhibits
1940 Diamond Dust Punchboard
1940 Michigan Sportservice
1940 Play Ball R335 41
1941 Double Play R330 54
1941 Play Ball R336 19 Copyright 1941 on Back
1941 Play Ball R336 19 No 1941 Copyright on Back
1941 Play Ball Paper Version 19

BunchOBull · September 19, 2007 12:36AM

Thanks for that link Griffins.

Griffins · September 19, 2007 12:36AM

Here's a few-

MooseDog · September 19, 2007 1:13AM

Best...signature...ever!

ROCKCITYCHRIS · September 19, 2007 1:24AM

christopherking · September 19, 2007 4:39AM

<the stat that really amazes me was his 641 at bats with only 13 strikeouts.

What about Joe Sewall's stats?

608 AB with 4 strikeouts
503 AB with 3 strikeouts

Total number of strikeouts in 14 season career = 114

milbroco · September 19, 2007 9:44AM

Holy Schnikies! Sewell is the one I was thinking about! Thanks for the information!
Bob

tennesseebanker · September 19, 2007 11:07AM

is Mr. Gehringer still living ??

Stone193 · September 19, 2007 11:09AM

<< <i>is Mr. Gehringer still living ?? >>

In spirit only.

mike

tennesseebanker · September 19, 2007 11:20AM

I was wondering the other day how many players from the 33 Goudey set were still alive if any ? Anyone Know ?

Carew29 · September 19, 2007 12:15PM

My favorite from the Dodgers growing up as a teen was Bill Buckner for this reason.

AB FOR 21 YEARS ---9,397
STRIKE OUTS--------453----- 1 SO every 21 at bats

AB--383 SO-13
AB--642 SO-26
AB--578 SO-18
AB--421 SO-16

Year traded to the Cubs
AB--43 SO-1

kmnorton · September 19, 2007 12:37PM

Didn't think it would start so soon

Another for the start

Very excited (if they are real) to get a HOF auto(s) for under $20. Now onto some of the flashier postcards with Autos. The cards themselves may have to wait.

Should I send 1 of these to Knuckles to do his magic?

By the way, thanks for the info on the list of cards.

jhpfunk · September 20, 2007 8:49AM

I have a really nice PSA 6 1934 Goudey Gehringer that I just listed on Ebay if you're interested.

1934 PSA 6 on Ebay

rube26105 · September 20, 2007 9:54AM

ilove archie bunker chiris lol!
randy

christopherking · September 20, 2007 10:52AM

Glad you like Archie. I almost coughed up my beer laughing over your post about Mossi and the science experiment gone wrong.....lol Poor guy. I guess he's still around and living in California. Wonder how big his ears and nose are now since they say the nose and ears just keep growing until the end...ha ha

msassin · September 20, 2007 11:30AM

<< <i>I was wondering the other day how many players from the 33 Goudey set were still alive if any ? Anyone Know ? >>

None.

There is one living player that had a 1935 Diamond Star card (Bill Werber...currently 99)

tennesseebanker · September 20, 2007 11:32AM

Here is a list someone sent me of the players alive from the 33-34 Goudey sets. This is from earlier this year so may not be current.

1 Rollie Stiles 11/17/1906
2 Bill Werber 6/20/1908
3 Tony Malinosky 10/5/1909
4 Lonny Frey 8/23/1910
5 Herb Hash 2/13/1911
6 Connie Marrero 4/25/1911
7 Nino Bongiovanni 12/21/1911
8 Ace Parker 5/17/1912
9 Don Gutteridge 6/19/1912
10 George Cisar 8/25/1912
11 Tommy Henrich 2/20/1913
12 Art Mahan 6/8/1913
13 Gene Corbett 10/25/1913
14 Herman Franks 1/4/1914
15 Stan Benjamin 5/20/1914
16 Pete Naktenis 6/12/1914
17 Tommy Reis 8/6/1914
18 Les McCrabb 11/4/1914
19 Alex Pitko 11/22/1914
20 Gene Handley 11/25/1914

kmnorton · September 28, 2007 6:38AM

Already added two sigs and a 1980 signed Perez-Steele. Once again, thanks to everybody for their assistance, especially Tom Salem.

My New Man Crush - Charlie Gehringer

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