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Trying Again with Trimmed Cards

Post25Post25 Posts: 206
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I am hoping some of you can give me advice.. I have recently joined PSA and have sent in a few submission with no problems. I just submitted some of my vintage cards and they were all graded except my '54 Ted Williams #1.. This card is a beauty, I was hoping to get a 7 but PSA said it was trimmed.. My Dad had this card and gave it to me (it was his uncle's card passed onto him).. I am certain it is not trimmed.... Anyone ever have any experience re-submitting a card they said was trimmed.. Did it get a grade a second time around? Should I bother sending it in again?
Thanks...

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  • tombotombo Posts: 332
    Yes, send it in again. A card with that value, especially one in which you are certain is not trimmed, definitely deserves another shot. I've resumitted 2 cards, '90 Leaf Thomas & Delongs Gehringer, that both came back graded the second time. Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
  • nccardcollectornccardcollector Posts: 61
    Happened to me recently on my first submission, with a 68 and 69 Ryan image

    I measured the 69 Ryan - clear trim, was ignorant about trimming at the time, but learned a valuable lesson.

    However, the 68 card appears completely fine. How close does it have to be to 2.5x3.5 to be considered trimmed or is that even a criterion of trimming evidence? Also, better to resubmit to PSA or try another grading company. I wouldn't worry except I would expect a 6 on it.


    I was just measuring some of my 61 high numbers and they are less than 2.5"

    I know they aren't trimmed because they were dad's growing up and he bought them original. So I guess width isn't really that important or will those cards come back non holstered if I submit them?
    Selling 1965-1980 psa rookie stars
    Selling 1961-1962 commons, stars, and high numbers baseball and football
  • Post25Post25 Posts: 206
    Does PSA have any literature about how they determine if a card is trimmed?? Requirements for a trimmed card?
  • SlabbedSlabbed Posts: 306
    Yeah guess work.
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    If calipers show the same numeric value north/south, east/west on all four sides, I'd try again. If there is a gradual progression, especially towards the "too wide" spectrum on any of the sides, I'd try again for a MC.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com
  • mcolneymcolney Posts: 20
    So what does evidence of trimming mean? Is a card that is 2.49 x 3.49 trimmed? Or, does a card that is 2.5 x 3.5, but has one edge that is too smooth or sharp compared to the other three qualify as trimmed.

    I have cards the I bought in the 70's from packs that when lined up together vary in both width and height from each other? Will these get an evidence of trimming when I know they haven't been altered?

    How do you all evaluate cards at a show. Should I bring a loupe and calipers along with my needed checklist?
  • RawPlusSlabbedRawPlusSlabbed Posts: 166


    << <i>I am hoping some of you can give me advice.. I have recently joined PSA and have sent in a few submission with no problems. I just submitted some of my vintage cards and they were all graded except my '54 Ted Williams #1.. This card is a beauty, I was hoping to get a 7 but PSA said it was trimmed.. My Dad had this card and gave it to me (it was his uncle's card passed onto him).. I am certain it is not trimmed.... Anyone ever have any experience re-submitting a card they said was trimmed.. Did it get a grade a second time around? Should I bother sending it in again?
    Thanks... >>



    Resubmit and you will get it graded. Should there be a policy that you get the resubmittal for free when they slab it?
  • Post25Post25 Posts: 206
    I just think its funny that you don't really get a description of why they think it is trimmed. Is it really just a money grab because they know most people will most likley send it in again? It sounds like that is what most people do. Very intersting....
  • Beezer12Beezer12 Posts: 104 ✭✭
    An allegation of trimming to me seems a short step up from claims of counterfeiting. The fact that cards PSA return as trimmed can be resubmitted and slabbed for a price reeks of a degree of incompetance at best....... unfortunate.
  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    If you resubmit it enough times they will grade it...just have to get some extra cash in the pockets.
  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    The thing about trimmed cards is like that 69 Ryan might be the correct size and still be trimmed. Many cards from that era were actually slightly larger than the norm. These are prime targest for trim jobs. You have to look at alot more than the card size to detect trimming. If a card from that era has 4 smooth sides then there is a chance it could be trimmed as rough cuts are pretty common.
  • 1960toppsguy1960toppsguy Posts: 1,127 ✭✭
    That's how PSA makes money! They know you will resubmit the big dollar cards.image
  • nccardcollectornccardcollector Posts: 61
    Better to replace the case (and send it in a new card saver I) or ask them to review it because you don't agree that it was trimmed?
    Selling 1965-1980 psa rookie stars
    Selling 1961-1962 commons, stars, and high numbers baseball and football
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