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Some questions about PSA certification of ticket stubs (WS collectors, you'll want to see these...)

First of all, greetings from the US Coin Forum, where I usually hang out. Only today after killing time on eBay did I notice that PSA will encapsulate ticket stubs. I also searched a few threads here and it sounds like unless you have a full ticket, it's realy only worth getting the torn stubs from a few select games certified. So my first question is would the following full ticket be worth submitting - it's from Game 1 of the 2000 Series in Yankee Stadium, the first Subway Series since the 1950s:

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I attended this game with a season ticket purchased by my employer, each person here gets to go to two or three games a year, and at playoff time they have a drawing. That particular ticket was not for the season box but an additional two seats in the upper deck they picked up due to employee demand. Any estimate of value, raw or encapsulated, would also be helpful.

Now these next three, I know I want to submit, the only question is how. These were inherited from my grandfather, who at the time was a dock worker in Bridgeport CT, and who used to attend Yankee games on bus trips sponsored by the Teamsters Union. A die-hard Yanks fan, he used to tell me stories about watching Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle.

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The first is from the deciding Game 7 of the 1955 series, the Dodgers only championship in Brooklyn. The last is from a 1957 game against the Milwaukee Braves. And that middle one, Game 5 of the 1956 Series, is Don Larsen's perfect game.

Let me be clear and say that these are not being offered for sale. Right now I just want to get them authenticated and in a sealed holder to preserve them. I'm planning to call Collectors' Universe and find out if my Platimum Club membership, which grants me rights to submit coins to PCGS, will also allow me to send these in to PSA. The thing is, I need to know an estimate of their current value so I know what tier to use. I had someone appraise them not long after my grandfather died in 1997, but judging by what I saw on ebay these have skyrocketed in value. Also, if I can't submit myself, I'm hoping for some recommendations from the hivemind here for a trustworthy dealer to handle the submission for me.

Any advice, comments or feedback are most welcome.


Sean Reynolds

Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor

Comments

  • tkd7tkd7 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    Those are great stubs! I suggested checking ebay for completed auction prices or once you become a PSA member, you can use the SMR guide for ticket prices.

    Off the top of my head, I would say $100 for the 1955 stub (Brooklyn clinches its only WS win), $500 for the 1956 stub (Larsen's perfect game), and $50 for the 1957 stub (Aaron and Berra home runs).

    I would also suggest having PSA slab and authenticate but not grade. Looking at the stubs (creases and poor tears at the perforation), I would expect very low number grades on these as PSA is very tough on ticket stubs, basically holding them to the same standards as cards.

    Nice collection.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    2000 full ticket may be worth $200, give or take. It's hard to tell condition based upon your scans.

    Your other stubs are probably worth in the $60 range, with the Larsen one being worth considerably more.

    All in -- I don't think any of them necessarily warrant the grading/shipping fees associated with them. I don't think many will dispute they are authentic, and it is not like any of them are in a pristine condition that will afford them high mobility in value with a slick PSA grade.

    ~ms
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    You can check on Ebay completed auctions...many WS stubs in similar condition, sell for in the ~$40 range.

    As an aside, a similar Larsen ticket stub is available online for the overpriced amount of $500

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    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • tkd7tkd7 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    Marc,
    There are many Larsen stubs in the marketplace but it is hard to find a decent example for much less than $500 on ebay.
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay, the values I've read so far are a lot closer to what I heard before. I should really know better than to use eBay stores as a value basis for anything. image

    If authenticity isn't an issue then I guess I'd just as soon leave them "raw". Right now they're in card holders for protection, though I wasn't sure that was a smart long-term solution. I had thoughts when I first got them of displaying the tickets in frames with B/W photos from the era, if not the actual games. There's a famous picture of Larsen throwing a pitch late in his game with a scoreboard full of zeroes behind him that would be perfect.

    I will say I'm shocked at the value of the 2000 WS ticket. I'll have to look at it again but I really doubt it's in nice enough condition to warrant certification either.

    Thanks again for the replies so far. If I can ever be of similar service with any coin questions, PM me or drop by the USCF.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • Sometimes modern tickets surprise me. For example, I was watching this 2002 World Series ticket and thinking of adding it to my collection but the price went well beyond what I expected (including the shipping price of $10! image

    I have been getting tickets graded when the have the PSA specials just for my personal collection. I didn't think there was a big market for graded tickets but I am starting to see prices creeping up.
    Looking for Los Angeles/California/Anaheim Angels in PSA 8 or better
  • what an item is worth(that is with any collectible) is really up to the person that is purchasing it! while one person may think its OVERPRICED another may think that item is worth it especially if its VERY hard to find! that is what alot of collectors forget and are stuck on price guides and SMR Guides If its Rare and hard to find and Especially 50 plus years old Condition is only 1 factor and most of the time not a major factor! when i price something epscially vintage stubs i take into account what has gone for on ebay how many are listed at one time how often they come up for sale, the condition, and price guides(if avaible) and you also have to think how many tickets were sold to these games say 50,000 were sold back in the 30's 40's 50' and 60's do you really think people saved them NO and the ones that did most likely scrapped booked them so lets say half of the 50,000 saved them thats 25,000 of that lets say most scrapped booked them 15,000 are damaged and 10,000 are not that is pretty rare compared to Baseball cards which were and are produced in 100,000's! and trust me once ticket stubs do gain popularity(which they are month after month) they will probably surpass baseball cards because tickets are the closest thing you can get to actually being at that game! you also have to think about sentimental value some people purchase tickets because they went to that event as a kid or with there dad that might have passed away and are willing to spend more then that person that thinks your over priced, again it comes down to what that person is willing to pay for an item! hope this helped some and yes any of those 50's stubs would be better encapsulating if your looking for future value depending on if Grading stays in the collectible market. i know alot of people that dont like it and dont trust it.
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