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1952 Topps Mantle vs 1951 Bowman Mantle

We all know that the 1952 Mantle is called his rookie card when in fact that it is his 1951 Bowman that is his true rookie card. We all know, too, that Topps cards are more popular than Bowman. For that reason, mainly, I feel that his 52 Topps card is considerably more valuable than his 51 Bowman.

Here is my question - what is the reason for such a large price difference? In my mind, the 52 Topps should probably be more valuable, but not by much. Why is there such a large difference? Is it the fact that the Topps is in the high number series? We all know how tough even a common high number can be. Is that the main reason for the price difference?

Shane

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  • I would say that it has something to do with the overall popularity of Topps as compared to Bowman. There are probably a lot more people who have attempted to put together full runs of Topps baseball cards than there are Bowman, and in order to get that "full run" you would need to get the 1952 Topps card. In addition, I think the 1952 Topps design is incredible looking while the 1951 Bowman is kind of bland in my eyes.

    When you throw in the fact that I believe the 1951 card is leaps and bounds more plentiful than the 1952 Topps card it will also drive the price upwards.
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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    The '52 Topps Mantle gets such a premium I'd say, due to the allure of it being from "the" classic '52 Topps set. Please, try not to turn people onto the '51 Bowman Mick too much, itself a classic card that needs apologize to no one... as I still haven't got one, and hope to one day without it being a lot pricier than it is now. image
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    simple supply and demand. there are so many more collectors interested in the 1952 topps version that it keeps the price much higher. alot of collectors will purchase the 1952 topps mantle even if they have one already if the price seems cheap as well. this in itself sets a bottom for that card and as long as that scenerio exists, the price will remain. i have both versions and i will normally still go after the topps if it seems cheap but not the 1951 bowman.
  • profile of the Mick and the color of the card. I think the 51 bowman is very plain. I like the 52 bowman, not as much as the 52 0r 53 topps though. The shot on the 52 topps of Mantle is picturesque!
  • Don't forget the '52 card, even though it was double printed, is very scare due to being in the ultra-tough high numbers. That, and the fact that it along with the T206 Wagner are the 2 most iconic cards in the hobby.
  • helionauthelionaut Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    The 1952 Topps is only called his rookie card by people who don't understand or care about the term. Obviously, his 1951 Bowman is his only rookie card. But the fact that the 52 is worth so much more makes the 51 an afterthought in some people's minds.

    It's worth so much more because, well, it's just a nicer card. The 1952 Topps set was so much different from all other sets before it. Size of the cards, the exciting design, comprehensiveness of the checklist, multiple series. Plus, the third series allegedly didn't sell well, leading to the infamous dumping in the early 60s. Even though the Mick is double-printed (or triple?), the overall lack of material leads to scarcity. And something about it, like the 2001 Bowman Chrome Pujols, just makes it the best post-war card to have, which leads to astronomical pricing.
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  • RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭
    The '52 also had a lot of notoreity when Alan Rosen made his famous find of them in 1986 or '87. I'm sure many long time collectors (i.e. 30+ years in) would say the card has always been in higher demand.
  • JackWESQJackWESQ Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭
    Someone with access to the POP could verify this, but could it be that there is no 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle PSA 10. But there are three (3) 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 10?

    And at such a late time in the "grading game," I think it would be hard pressed to see a PSA 10 surface ... unless, someone with serious stones decides to crack out and resubmit one the PSA 9s or super duper 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle BGS 9.5/BGS 10 is cut from a sheet.

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  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    there is 1 1951 bowman mantle graded psa 10 in the pop report.
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    There was an article some years ago in some hobby mag interviewing the guy who owned the world's "most perfect" '51 Bowman Mantle - probably the same one listed in the pop report.


  • << <i>It's worth so much more because, well, it's just a nicer card. >>



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    << <i>alot of collectors will purchase the 1952 topps mantle even if they have one already if the price seems cheap as well. >>



    cohocorp, if I am not mistaken you speak these words from personal experience with your nice collections of 52 Mantles.... imageimage
  • The '52 Mantle has so much going for it...

    -It's Topps first real set. Topps is the epitome of Americana, mom and apple pie. Sort of what Disney is to cartoons, Topps is to baseball cards. When you say "bowman", it just doesn't have the same appeal.

    -Say the words..."52 Topps high number" and your pulse starts racing. And then you've got the notoriety and stories behind it (Topps dumping them into the ocean). There are other rare Topps series in other years, but the stories don't mean as much there.

    -Great close up shot. Great color. Contrast it with his Berk Ross card, etc.

    The 51 Bowman is a nice shot. But I don't know if it'll ever catch up.
  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    the reason? Baaaaaaa


    The 51 is his rookie and looks much, much better (imo).

    The reason the 52 is so much more desired is because people see the price tag, hear people talk about it more often, and have heard it be called his rookie card over and over; so they decide that it must be the better card.
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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do understand and get the reasoning behind it. I do, however, think that the 51 Bowman is one of the most under appreciated cards in the hobby.

    Shane

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    The '51 Bowman IS underappreciated. I just hope no one finds out before I can get a decent example! image Maybe 'round next tax refund time, perhaps.
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