1961 Joe Gibbon

markj111 · August 29, 2007 4:17AM

Why is this card so expensive in PSA 8? Twelve of them have been sold in the past year or so (per VCP), and they go for $500+. One went for nearly $900, and the most recent one sold for more than $1100. There are seven cards in 61 with an equal or lower pop (Terry, Houk, Dressen, Goodman, Blasingame, Nichols, and WS Gm 1). I might have missed some. The WS card has a much lower pop.

Gibbon routinely goes for much more than all but the WS card. It is one of 4 cards that I need in 8 to have the entire set in 8 or better, but I can not bring myself to pay the going rate.

RonBurgundy · August 29, 2007 4:42AM

All the others you mentioned are not high numbers. It's considered the toughest of the highs, so that's why it brings ridiculous prices. If you can get one for $500-600, that's lower than what I've seen them priced at shows.

Ron

FanothoseYanks · August 29, 2007 4:47AM

Mark, I assume Gibbon goes for so much due to his long-standing rep as a tough card and that his population is probably perceived as a "hard count" where anything with a ghost of a chance for PSA 8 has already been submitted. Further, Gibbon could be a member of at least 3 popular sets/subsets: 1961 High Numbers, 1961 Pirates Team set, and of course the '61 set itself, so his pop is spread thin across those set lines. (As you know, there are a lot of complete sets on the registry for 1961, as well as for the Pirates team. There must be a few sets out there which are complete but not on the registry for some reason. Take those out and the pickings are slim. Also, if a dozen have sold in the last year, how do we know if they are all different? Could be a much smaller number of actual cards.

markj111 · August 29, 2007 4:54AM

<< <i>All the others you mentioned are not high numbers. It's considered the toughest of the highs, so that's why it brings ridiculous prices. If you can get one for $500-600, that's lower than what I've seen them priced at shows.

The pop for Gibbon is still higher than the other cards I mentioned. We have an obscure player selling for more than the manager of one of the all-time favorite teams, even though the mgr has a lower pop. I guess I will spring for it one day, but for now I will be content with my seven.

Morgoth · August 29, 2007 6:21AM

I agree it's got the Herman Wehmeir 1952 Topps feel to it. The Dick Stuart is almost just as tough but it sells for like 60 bucks. I collect the 61 Pirates set and need it and the WS card for my 8 set. I have the Stuart in an 7. I say it's all about patience, pop will go up over time. Eventually it will come down in price as like you say its a nobody card that's only worth over 80 bucks in a PSA 8 or higher holder. Pretty limited value there. I can get a PSA 6 Clemente RC or Aaron RC for what the card sometimes brings.

Morgoth · August 29, 2007 6:22AM

Next show go aske Kyle of Kyle's cards how much he wants for his. I bust out laughing and he actually got mad.

markj111 · August 29, 2007 6:27AM

<< <i>Next show go aske Kyle of Kyle's cards how much he wants for his. I bust out laughing and he actually got mad. >>

What did he want?

alnavman · August 29, 2007 6:32AM

Isn't the Jim Gentile card from the 61 Topps set also hard to get high grades on? And in turn it goes for a premium?

Morgoth · August 29, 2007 7:17AM

1400

RonBurgundy · August 29, 2007 7:21AM

Better yet, ask him what he wants for his 1958 Mike McCormick.

Ron

1961 Joe Gibbon

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