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apprasial advice- (1963?) Yankees baseball- Updated more Picture added

hello, I am a coin and currency guy,

but my step mom has a baseball signed by Mickey Mantle
and about nine other members of the Yankee team then..
Her friend, the railroad police captain, got it signed for her when both were at a game....

I have no doubts about the authenticity, how should I go about getting it appraised?

Edited to correct my Dad's misspelling of Mantle
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Edited agan to add the yea and picture added


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  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Firstly, make sure he signed it Mantle, and not Mantel.
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    I cut and pasted my dad's letter ( He 's not a Yankee fan, or a great speller)


    A witty saying proves nothing- Voltaire (1694 - 1778)



    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    Depends on the other members who signed it. If it also has Maris it would be a big increase. Other names that would help are; Ford, Berra, Martin, Howard, etc.

  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    I'll check, and will find out the year.


    A witty saying proves nothing- Voltaire (1694 - 1778)



    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    Here is the info and picture

    from my dad

    Ball has has "Yankees"...and Spaulding with "Horsehide Cover'. ,

    Yes, Mickey Mantle, Tony Kubek, Ed Ford, Roger Maris, Harry Bright and Steve Hamilton who are not on the 61 or 62 rosters so this must be 1963 roster, Yogi Berra right above Mantle's signature, Marshall Bridges, Hal Reniff, Joe Pepitone, Bud? Daley, Phil Linz, John Blanchard, Al Downing, Hec Lopez, Dale Long, Jack Reed. Jim Bouton, Tom Tresh, one very faint one , Ralph Terry and Elston Howard. The pitchers wouldn't be in the dugout, Mar says.

    Just took a picture of the Yogi and Mickey side and will send it next


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    A witty saying proves nothing- Voltaire (1694 - 1778)



    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭
    Looks great. One thing that strikes me though ... are the sigs in two different pens? The Mantle looks blue and the Berra looks black. Sigs that I can see look clear and bold too. Value wise you are probably looking at the low four figures minimm assuming you can put all the signatures into one year's team. 1963 seems right. Would be worth more on an official league ball but it's nice none the less.
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    LINK

    That ball had some other HOFers including Ted Williams and Robinson that made it better, also it was an official league ball and PSA/DNA certified. It will cost you some money to get it certified, but it is a very good idea. Mantle and Maris are pretty high dollar signatures to authenticate. If everything comes as authentic with no clubhouse signature I would think you could get $800-$1,200 for it. If Mantle and Maris were both on the sweet spot it would be higher.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,601 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mantle looks kinda clubhouse to me.
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    I am not sure what you mean by clubhouse-

    Do you think that some one other than mickey signed it in the dugout on his behalf?

    I think it looks very similar to the sig in the link Allen provided.

    My step mom said it was from a game she was at, and a friend got it signed during the game. I wouldn't doubt that multiple pens were used.

    Thanks for you input so far, now how would you go about authenticating it, is there one place that is recognized above others?

    (My step mom is a Notary Public, but I am sure her sworn statement would carry no weight.)

    I also know that some places are less than honest, like the group that had a 1928G $2 bill with autographs from Ruth and Gehrig, Sigs looked legit, but the 1928G series of $2 bills weren't produced until the late 46-47, and when notified, did not stop the auction.


    A witty saying proves nothing- Voltaire (1694 - 1778)



    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • earlycalguyearlycalguy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭
    the same company who grades coins and currency authenticates autographs and are known to be the best.
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    I don't think that ball has a chance at PSA/DNA. I think Nick is right about the Mantle and I've never seen a Maris like that. I'm sure somebody here knows more about Roger's sig than me, did he ever start the M low like that? Back then it was common to have clubhouse sigs and it wasn't seen as cheating or being deceptive, it was more of a time saving thing.

    Maybe do an ebay auction and spend the money for a psa/dna quick opinion (around $10) and see what they say before you spend the real money getting it authenticated.
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  • TNTonPMSTNTonPMS Posts: 2,279 ✭✭
    I have a 1958 NY Yankees team signed baseball authenticated by JSA , your baseball looks almost like a carbon copy with the acception of the Maris

    The Mick looks legit to me .

    The Maris looks clubhouse though to me

    Don't know why two different pens were used .

    On one of my baseballs , that has a Clubhouse Jimmy Burke they explain in the certificate that from the 1920's to the present day it is common practice for Clubhouse personell ( i.e. attendants, batboys,other players ) to perform the duties of " Ghost "Signing for ball players, Often a non malicious ritual .

    Nice baseball , I'd say it's worth about 800.00, maybe a lil more at auction .

  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    My dad has sent me more pictures, they look a little out of focus, but show the ball brand, and a few other sigs.

    He does confirm multiple pens were used

    Did Whitey usually sign as Ed Ford?

    Ball looks a little whiter in these pictures.


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    Thanks again to all of you for your input- I am usually on the other side helping people identify their parents' coins and currency.



    A witty saying proves nothing- Voltaire (1694 - 1778)



    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor

    does the truth become error because nobody will see it. -Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
  • TNTonPMSTNTonPMS Posts: 2,279 ✭✭
    It is Ed Ford on mine . . .

    The only thing I see that makes me even think twice about the Mantle is the C and the K in Mickey , not that it means anything, but I have not seen any so pronounced as this one .
    It also looks a little wider , the letters look more spread apart .

    I would just send it to PSA and just put it to rest .
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