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What are the odds that a shop sells no graded cards or has no online presence can succeed?

Does anyone seriously think that a card shop that does neither of these things can survive today?
Ron Burgundy

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  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    Yes
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭
    I've got an old timer near me who hates graded cards, ebay, no online presence and I don't know how he does it cause there isn't much in his display cases but I do go in there on occasion and buy new packs from him. He's been there for over 15 years so go figure. chaz
  • Yep.

    Card shop near here sells cards and singles, but sells tons of CCGs, comics, and supplies. Key today is diversity.


  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    there are none around here with graded cards, wish there were!
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Key today is diversity. >>




    Some would call that trying to be a "jack of all trades". I'd rather go to a card show where BASEBALL CARDS (or at least sports cards) are the main attraction and its focus, not just some sideshow in the corner while the Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon command front and center stage. image
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  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Odds are long unless you locked into your real estate at low, low prices.

    A startup with today's real estate/lease prices and a long growth curve (based on passers-by and the yellow pages or other "old", non-internet marketing) seems destined for a tough road.
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  • MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭
    Sports cards only, no chance unless the owner has a huge following and low overhead.

    I just last year help liquidate a friend's card shop, and he managed to keep afloat like this:

    1) Started with 1000sf shop on the back side of his town's main street.
    2) After 1994 baseball strike moved into LARGER location, split the space (and business) with a partner who opened a smoothie shop.
    3) Relocated card shop to back of new location with only about 250sf. The shop was situated in such a way that you had to pass the card shop if you parked in the back lot and were going to the smoothie shop.
    4) As cards were slow to recover from the baseball strike, branched out into Pokemon, Magic, etc cards and also sold candy (bulk Jelly Bellys mostly) and even got some corporate accounts.
    5) Basically did OK until about three years ago when the Atkins Diet crazed slowed smoothie sales and then Xmas 2005 was really bad for the card shop, so he decided to pull the plug on the whole operation.

    He never sold online and never did shows and managed to make a go of it all those years and was probably one of the last of the local shops to close.
  • Hey Ron, Nicks card shop in town has zero graded cards that I have seen, and he has been around for years. I do not think he deals online at all either.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Key today is diversity. >>




    Some would call that trying to be a "jack of all trades". I'd rather go to a card show where BASEBALL CARDS (or at least sports cards) are the main attraction and its focus, not just some sideshow in the corner while the Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon command front and center stage. image >>



    Unfortunately in today's market there's no way to stay afloat without catering to both crowds.
  • I rather like Magic cards, thank you image

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  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    ron-- to answer your question, i would say at least a 50 to 1 dog.
  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    What chaz said, exact same story for me.
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Interesting responses. I asked the question because there is a shop in town (that Flintboy identified) that has no graded cards and sells nothing online. Yet every time I go in there, there are tons of kids with their parents. They do a lot of marketing towards kids and it's great to see that. They do have a lot of vintage stuff, but mostly midgrade. They've been there for 20 years and the shop owner has said the last 3 have been the best ever.

    Conversely, two of the other shops in town are going downhill partly because they spend so much time maintaining their online business on Beckett marketplace. One guy even makes you go online to buy anything in his shop, as he is just waiting for his lease to expire to go totally online.



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  • MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,948 ✭✭✭
    The first guy obviously know what he's doing, who his market is, and whatever he is doing is actually getting people to actually come into his store. I'll bet he's a personable guy as well who treats the kids and parents with respect. Kudos to him!

    The second guy strikes me as lazy, in a business sense, and I'll bet he's not a "people person". My guess is he has a lot in common with Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons...
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