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3 bad subs recently. its beginning to hurt.

cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
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here is the first sub. pretty disappointed. but i have to admit, they were graded ridiculously fast.

PSA Order Status for Submission # 622638


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 31886090 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886091 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886092 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886093 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
1 31886094 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886095 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886096 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886097 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886098 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886099 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886100 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
1 31886101 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886102 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
1 31886103 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886104 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886105 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886106 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886107 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886108 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886109 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886110 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886111 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886112 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
1 31886113 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886114 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886115 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886116 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886117 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886118 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886119 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886120 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886121 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886122 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886123 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886124 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886125 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886126 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886127 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886128 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886129 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886130 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886131 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886132 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886133 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886134 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886135 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886136 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886137 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886138 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886139 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886140 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886141 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886142 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886143 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886144 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886145 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886146 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886147 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886148 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886149 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886150 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886151 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886152 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886153 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886154 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886155 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886156 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886157 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886158 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886159 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886160 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886161 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886162 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 6
1 31886163 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886164 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886165 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886166 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886167 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886168 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886169 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886170 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886171 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
1 31886172 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
1 31886173 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886174 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886175 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886176 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886177 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886178 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886179 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886180 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886181 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886182 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886183 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
1 31886184 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886185 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
1 31886186 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886187 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
1 31886188 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
1 31886189 1994 FLAIR 340 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886190 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886191 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886192 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
2 31886193 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886194 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
2 31886195 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886196 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886197 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886198 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 5
2 31886199 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886200 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886201 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886202 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886203 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886204 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886205 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
2 31886206 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886207 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886208 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886209 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886210 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886211 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886212 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886213 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886214 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886215 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886216 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886217 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886218 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886219 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886220 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886221 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886222 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886223 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 10
2 31886224 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886225 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886226 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886227 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886228 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
2 31886229 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886230 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886231 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886232 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886233 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886234 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
2 31886235 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886236 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886237 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886238 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886239 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886240 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886241 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886242 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886243 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886244 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886245 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886246 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886247 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886248 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886249 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 8
2 31886250 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886251 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
2 31886252 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9
2 31886253 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 7
2 31886254 1994 FLEER UPDATE U86 ALEX RODRIGUEZ N/A 9

Date Received: 08/06/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 08/10/2007
Date Shipped: 08/10/2007




here is the second sub...not too bad though as the nelson #390 is tough in psa 5, but no way is the judson trimmed. the walker is a let down as it certainly looks like a 3 to me. i expected a few others to grade higher as well.
1 04760129 1952 TOPPS 53 CHRIS VAN CUYK N/A 5
2 04760130 1952 TOPPS 80 HERMAN WEHMEIER N/A 5
3 04760131 1952 TOPPS 169 HOWIE JUDSON N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming
4 04760132 1952 TOPPS 319 AL WALKER N/A 2
5 04760133 1952 TOPPS 347 JOE ADCO*K N/A 3
6 04760134 1952 TOPPS 361 BILL POSEDEL N/A 5
7 04760135 1952 TOPPS 376 FAYE THRONEBERRY N/A 4
8 04760136 1952 TOPPS 382 SAM JONES N/A 4
9 04760137 1952 TOPPS 390 GLENN NELSON N/A 5
10 04760138 1952 TOPPS 399 JIM FRIDLEY N/A 4
11 04760139 1952 TOPPS 402 EARL HARRIST N/A 4

Date Received: 07/27/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 08/09/2007
Date Shipped: 08/09/2007

here is the final bad sub. i really thought this had a shot at a psa 10. a real let down.
1 31886089 1994 SP 15 ALEX RODRIGUEZ FOIL 8

Date Received: 08/06/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 08/09/2007
Date Shipped: 08/09/2007

i see i do not have a good eye for more modern stuff. this was my test. the flair grades were as expected, but a monkey could pick them out as they are thick enough to all grade pretty well.
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Comments

  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    Im looking for a Flair Alex Rodriguez card # 340. Would you happen to have one?

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  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭


    << <i>Im looking for a Flair Alex Rodriguez card # 340. Would you happen to have one? >>



    i think i am the only person who was actually able to get one graded a psa 6. thats tough to do.
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  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Im looking for a Flair Alex Rodriguez card # 340. Would you happen to have one? >>



    i think i am the only person who was actually able to get one graded a psa 6. thats tough to do. >>



    image

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  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    wow, i take it the fleer update arod is a tough on in a 10!
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    When I first dipped into modern, I found that I would ignore little edge nicks and the slightest touched corner thinking that graders weren't that harsh on modern. After a few subs, I realized that unless the card is flawless on the front, there's not much of a chance to pull a 10. A little damage on the back isn't a big deal for the most part, and sometimes you can slip 60/40 centering past em, but corners and edges on the front need to be flawless.
  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    See and I am just the opposite, I have gotten so used to grading modern cards if I see an older card with any little nick on the edges under a 10X loupe I will not submit it, unless it is tough in a particular grade.
  • jmbkb4jmbkb4 Posts: 2,963
    How much do Flair PSA 10s go for Pat? I assume more than they used to, given A-Rod's season!
  • jerrywest45jerrywest45 Posts: 166
    Coho, PM if you want to sell any 10's.

    Thanks, JW
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  • bhl2359bhl2359 Posts: 420 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Im looking for a Flair Alex Rodriguez card # 340. Would you happen to have one? >>



    i think i am the only person who was actually able to get one graded a psa 6. thats tough to do. >>



    That makes it a 1/1
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Im looking for a Flair Alex Rodriguez card # 340. Would you happen to have one? >>



    i think i am the only person who was actually able to get one graded a psa 6. thats tough to do. >>



    That makes it a 1/1 >>



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  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭


    << <i>How much do Flair PSA 10s go for Pat? I assume more than they used to, given A-Rod's season! >>



    josh,

    the flair psa 10s have been closing on ebay in the $125 range. although 2 different auctions sold a 5 count lot of psa 10s for $1200 per lot. thats a ridiculous $240 per card. $125 per sounds correct to me at this time.
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  • jmbkb4jmbkb4 Posts: 2,963
    Pat -- good for you! Weren't they selling for half that a year ago????
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭


    << <i>Pat -- good for you! Weren't they selling for half that a year ago???? >>



    i am sure. i wouldnt exactly say good for me though as i opened roughly 2000 packs to get the 100 flair arods. of course i was looking for more psa 10s in the bunch. but the flair certainly was not as bad as the 65 fleer update sets i opened. i only got 1 psa 10. that hurt. thats why the update psa 10s go for considerably more than the flair -- percentage wise. i could have got over $500 for the sp box which yielded just the psa 8 arod. that really bites. a good $400+ loss there. i really thought that card was cherry all the way. i even paid for the express service thinking it was higher end. a psa 10 sp arod is around $3500. the weird thing is that i had a discussion with another dealer who was trying to convince me to submit to bgs who was also breaking alot of flair packs. but i decided to try psa on these moderns. i always have been fairly successful submitting vintage cards to psa so i figured what the heck i will stick with them. hindsight is always 20/20 of course. i had been planning on breaking another 2000 packs of the flair to submit another 100 count of the arod rcs and all i can think of right now is the damn psa 8 grade on the sp card. thats more than a dissappointment to me. i realize one thing shouldnt have anything to do with the other, but to me it does. i paid over $1200 in grading fees on these submissions not taking into account the cost of the products.
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  • BlackborderBlackborder Posts: 2,797 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Im looking for a Flair Alex Rodriguez card # 340. Would you happen to have one? >>



    i think i am the only person who was actually able to get one graded a psa 6. thats tough to do. >>



    Sorry, I was looking for a PSA 5. image
  • RogermnjRogermnj Posts: 1,809 ✭✭
    I cracked a few boxes of the 94 flair and i expected every arod to be a 10.

    I got 8,9,9,10,10,10 Out of the ones i submitted and was really disappointed.

    what did you do with all of the arod wave of the futures??

  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    you received 50 % psa 10s. i had 26 %. thats a considerable difference especially on a large submission. if i received 50 % i would have been thrilled. as for my extra wave of the future arods, i am going to keep them for the 7-8 years it will take for him to break the hr record. i do have wave sets for sale in my ebay store. i have the same name on ebay as on here.
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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Did you bust and submit without really looking at the cards, or did you cherry-pick the best ones and only send them in?
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    I guess i can take those two cards out of my next submission!! Thanks alot pal!! image
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭


    << <i>Did you bust and submit without really looking at the cards, or did you cherry-pick the best ones and only send them in? >>



    i had about 10 cards from the flair which i didnt submit because of obvious flaws, the rest looked fine to me. so the 100 flair cards which i did submit i thought were all 9s and 10s. apparently i dont have an eye for the modern stuff.
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  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    story of my life....

    1 time!

    j
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  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>story of my life....

    1 time!

    j >>



    What? You ate 3 bad subs?

    I once ate a bad double cheeseburger from Mcdonalds so I know how you feel

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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    coho- I don't think it's a matter of not having an eye for them. I think it's more that you probably didn't take the time on them that you normally would a vintage card. With modern stuff, I tilt the card into the light to see if there are any surface problems, then I take a 15x loupe and start at the top left corner, then go all the way around the card looking for chips on the edges and touched corners. Then I give a quick look on the back to make sure there is nothing glaring. Takes about 30-45 seconds per card, and I do end up eliminating about a third of the cards I thought looked fine with my naked eye. Saves me a lot of money in grading fees for worthless 8s and 9s.

    Regardless of the set, you would be lucky to get 25% PSA 10's out of modern packs for any specific card. Since the 94 Flair isn't particularly condition sensistive, it may be a little higher. I think you actually did pretty good with the Flair's, and I bet if you louped them all you probably would've thrown out 20 or so cards making your results phenomenal for that card. I don't know anything about the Fleer Update sets so I can't help you out there.
  • cohocorpcohocorp Posts: 1,371 ✭✭
    lee- thanks for the input. will keep it in mind. i did not take a loupe to these cards, apparently that is one mistake i made.
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  • neenishneenish Posts: 559 ✭
    I think you did pretty well with the Arod cards (man, I wish I had your "bad luck" on my next submission). I remember selling my BGS 9.5 Flair Wave of the Future card for $1000 about four years back. It was one of only 3 graded that high at the time. You'll do well selling those cards. Nice pull!

    Brian
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