Now the waiting begins

WinPitcher · July 19, 2007 1:28PM

New ebayer, wins my auction, emails me 3x during auction, bids 15 times on auction, does he pay right away? of course not. now the waiting begins.

I hope it was not someone messing with me.

what do you guys think?

Steve

nam812 · July 19, 2007 1:29PM

Heres a link that works

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CDsNuts · July 19, 2007 1:33PM

Give the guy a break, it's only been a few hours. Besides, if he doesn't bid, your card only sells for $355. How did he convice you to let him bid on the card with no feedback history?

WinPitcher · July 19, 2007 1:34PM

Nick, thanks, I am working with a new computer and have not figured out everything yet. it is my first mac so i'll be struggling for a while.

what did you think about the buyer?

Steve

WinPitcher · July 19, 2007 1:43PM

lee

what do u mean give the guy a break? i have not done anything towards him. I just found it funny that he emailed me 3x regarding the auction, bid 15 times on it and when he wins i don't hear from him.

as for what it would have sold for you have no idea what it would have as some buyers may have been put off by seeing all his bids or can you see into the future?

fwiw when i won the card i paid instantly.

anyone know how to copy and paste with a mac?

Steve

prscott933 · July 19, 2007 1:45PM

<< <i>

anyone know how to copy and paste with a mac?

Steve >>

apple and c is copy
apple and v is paste

CDsNuts · July 19, 2007 1:50PM

My girlfiriend has a mac and I have no idea how to do anything with it. Supposedly they're easier to use, but I don't see it.

As for the guy- is he new to ebay or is this just a new id for him? It's possible he doesn't have a paypal account set up, or maybe he wants to pay via mail. Or maybe he's a deadbeat. Who knows? I don't think he's screwing with you, otherwise he would've just made one big bid to win the auction. Why go through the trouble of bidding that many times (not that it makes sense to begin with)? What sorts of questions did he ask you?

WinPitcher · July 19, 2007 1:55PM

Lee

The mac is not hard to use, but it aint easy either. I guess I'll get used to it.

he asked for a scan of the back, could he pick it up in person, i told him no to both as i was in between computers while the auctions were running. third question was would i combine shipping. maybe he intends to bid on some others i have going off tomorrow.

who knows. I wish that one of my regs won it.

if he turns out to be a dead beat i'll just relist it.

Steve

edited to add: the last one sold for 462.00 so I'm sure some people got turned off seeing him bid like that or once it got to a certain level they dropped out. 15 were watching it.

CDsNuts · July 19, 2007 2:01PM

That's a good point. If I was watching it and I saw a zero feedback user bidding it up I might start thinking shill, or at least be wary about bidding on it. Obviously your feedback suggests otherwise, but you never know these days. I would imagine he's thinking about bidding on a bunch of your 65 Yankees- that would be nice.

Lee

grote15 · July 19, 2007 2:08PM

I'd guess he's planning on bidding on more of your auctions if he asked about combined shipping, which would explain why he hasn't sent payment. Though many buyers pay instantly via Paypal, I wouldn't worry until at least a few days go by.

earlycalguy · July 19, 2007 3:16PM

edited to add: the last one sold for 462.00 so I'm sure some people got turned off seeing him bid like that or once it got to a certain level they dropped out. 15 were watching it. >>

didn't yours go for $510 - so you got more than the last 65' mick psa 7.

jmbkb4 · July 19, 2007 4:18PM

<< <i>Give the guy a break, it's only been a few hours. Besides, if he doesn't bid, your card only sells for $355. How did he convice you to let him bid on the card with no feedback history? >>

actually would have sold for $335.....

WinPitcher · July 19, 2007 10:16PM

actually would have sold for $335....

that is only if no one else bids. what some of you fail to see is that some people may have been turned off by the fact that a 0 feedback bidderr that registered 3 days ago was bidding like a mad man.

to say it would have sold for x is just not correct.

yes, if the last one sold for 462 and this one sold for 510 then yes it sold for more.

also a previoius customer bid 500.00 for it but was outbid by this newbie.

Steve

perkdog · July 19, 2007 10:41PM

Bottom line I would be nervous because the guy has the zero feedback. IMO it is a crapshoot now if you get paid, good luck Steve I hope he comes through. I am suprised though,cant you block people with zero or negative feedback? On a big $$ item I might have done that if possible. Very nice card BTW

WinPitcher · July 19, 2007 10:46PM

Perk

I could have cancelled his bid and then blocked him but his money is as good as anyone else's. The problem is like you say he has no history of paying. Would have been nice had he won some commons. Not the best card I had up.

No biggie, if he reneges I'll simply relist it and get 335.00 <eyeroll> for it

Steve

kimo75 · July 19, 2007 10:53PM

Weren't we all zero feedback bidders at one point?

perkdog · July 19, 2007 11:09PM

Im not throwing stones at anyone thats starting out by any meens but I got blocked from bidding on a card because I had 2 negs from 3 years ago, like I said just on this particular card I might have done this. But like Steve said his money is as good as anyones. Again I hope it works out..

BobaFett72 · July 20, 2007 12:11AM

The only ebayers who have everd d1cked me around are zero feedback bidders and those with very low/ or new ebayers.

cravetopps · July 20, 2007 12:31AM

I always dread zero or very low fb bidders. I realize that's where we all started but ....

these zero feedback bidders give the appearance that the auction is being shilled
which turns off potential bidders IMO. When I see this on something I am bidding on, I usually remove my snipe.

EBAY needs to allow more options for enabling sellers to block bidders with low fb. Right now you can only block low fb ebayers who have a negative fb rating, not a low fb rating. Also, it would be nice if you could require any buyer with a fb rating of less than "x" to pay immediately with paypal. Make them earn their reputation by being stellar payers.

WinPitcher · July 20, 2007 12:42AM

If I was bidding on that auction and saw what that 0 feedback guy was doing i too would have moved on. I was put into a no win situation, by allowing that guy to bid i may have turned off a few potential bidders. I'd rather get less then none at all.

I will keep the board informed as to the outcome.

crave topps has a great idea. feedback below 10? you must pay within 48 hrs. let them build up credibility.

Steve

nam812 · July 20, 2007 12:49AM

I've had zero feedback bidders that:

A) Communicated well and paid fast.

Stiffed me.
C) Were just unfamiliar with the whole eBay process and needed some guidance.

Only time will tell which one you got.

originalisbest · July 20, 2007 12:55AM

I hope not Steve. What can't every buyer be like me?

Hope it works out.

CDsNuts · July 20, 2007 1:19AM

I've had one or two problems with 0 fb bidders over the years, but nothing monumental. The simple fact is if you haven't taken the time to build up good feedback over the years, you're less likely to care whether you get negged so there's really no risk in not paying, taking a long time to pay, etc.... (other than being unethical).

Look at the bright side Steve- he could've stopped the bidding at $425, still scared off other bidders, and your card goes for way less. At least the guy bid it up higher than the last one. And if he renegs, maybe the 2nd bidder will take a second chance offer (although he'll probably suspect something might be up with the high bidder). You're right, it was a no win situation, but I wouldn't be too worried. It's not like no one will want the high grade Mantle card.

digicat · July 20, 2007 1:37AM

Ugh. I just filed a NPB claim with Ebay on a guy with 2000+ feedback (and 3 negs in the last 6 months for non payment), who has been buying and paying for cards activly since winning mine. 2 weeks and 4 invoices later, NPB claim. He's left feedback for someone since I filed the claim, so he's seen it, but has not responded. I guess he wants the NPB strike or something.

rbdjr1 · July 20, 2007 2:23AM

A decent PSA 7, I would add!

rd

jayhawke · July 20, 2007 3:18AM

<< <i>as for what it would have sold for you have no idea what it would have as some buyers may have been put off by seeing all his bids or can you see into the future? >>

Once a bid reaches $200, no one can not see who is the high bidder except the seller. At that point, the only way to tell feedback and bidding history on the highest bidder is to click on the bid history.

cravetopps · July 20, 2007 3:37AM

"Once a bid reaches $200, no one can not see who is the high bidder except the seller. At that point, the only way to tell feedback and bidding history on the highest bidder is to click on the bid history."

you can see the high bidder on any auction. You can't see the bidder id but you can see their feedback rating range. And you definitely see the dreaded new member icon.

WinPitcher · July 20, 2007 6:13AM

A person with 2k in feedback emails me and states:

If the zero feedback bidder stiffs you I'll buy it for 425.00

Is it the zero feedback guy trying to get a lower price?

I did not reply to the person.

Like mentioned, I still have the card.

If the person had some feedback this wouldn't be an issue.

Steve

Leiascards · July 20, 2007 7:33AM

In the past year I have had to file 18 NPBs mostly on bidders with over 100FB Only one had less than 10 FB. Have not had to file a UPI since I went Paypal only in April.

grote15 · July 20, 2007 12:22PM

A person with 2k in feedback emails me and states:

If the zero feedback bidder stiffs you I'll buy it for 425.00

Is it the zero feedback guy trying to get a lower price?

That would seem quite an elaborate effort to get the card for a lower price. More likely it's someone who didn't want to get into a bidding war with a new ebayer. If the new guy doesn't pay, you can file the NPB, get your FVF back and sell it to the other guy off ebay if you don't want to relist it again.

WinPitcher · July 20, 2007 10:49PM

Yeah I thought that was farfetched, however if the 0 feedback guy stiffs me I could always go to the 2nd place bidder and possibly get 500.00 for it.

The 0 fedback guy has completed checkout and says he will be sending me a check/money order.

at least he communicated.

Steve

stevek · July 21, 2007 2:58AM

Nothing wrong with that purchase - that is a very nice high end 7. Beautiful card!

WinPitcher · July 28, 2007 3:07AM

Update

Guy has paid with a money order!

I'll be mailing his card out on Monday.

Steve

earlycalguy · July 28, 2007 3:16AM

all that worry and he even saved you almost $20 bucks in paypal fees. i'd give him free shipping.

pandrews · July 28, 2007 4:17AM

i had a guy win something from my July 2nd.. he sends a personal check on the 13th and i received it on July 17th.. by July 24th he was writing me asking why he hasnt received his item..

pandrews · July 28, 2007 4:20AM

<< <i>Weren't we all zero feedback bidders at one point? >>

yes, but for some reason it still seems like 90% of 0 feedback bidders are mildly mentally incapacitated....

rube26105 · July 28, 2007 5:04AM

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-isnt that a perty name and address!- this is the address of someone i got the other day that had a zero lol-aint that class- looks like asomeone trying to type on lsd lol, havt heard nothig from them yet,i email everyday, just so junk isnt sitting around herte for weeks, ifigure if your not going to pay the least i can do is get to drive you nuts!
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Randy
p.s-glad it worked out for em and you didnt get the shaft on it steve, nice card!

WinPitcher · July 28, 2007 9:18AM

Thanks randy, not sure I understood anything else you said though

Not sure if I was ever worried.

I was simply concerned that a 0 feedback buyer won my auction and did not know his/her intent.

0 feedback buyers have no history thus we can't judge them.

Steve

Now the waiting begins

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