does this look like a PSA 10 to you? Centering question?

1980scollector · July 25, 2007 4:21AM

This card to me looks about 65/35 at best left to right!

what do you think???

clemens fleer rookie psa 10

EagleEyeKid · July 25, 2007 4:26AM

Yuck!!

JohnnyD · July 25, 2007 4:27AM

That centering sure does not seem psa 10 worthy....

jrinck · July 25, 2007 4:38AM

That's certainly not a 10 I'd ever consider buying.

Dang, the registry is a powerful thing, no?

digicat · July 25, 2007 4:40AM

It's a tough card due to centering, but I don't see how they ever decided that it was worthy of a 10!! I'd expect an 8 with an outside shot at a 9.

Actually, the centering is 41/59 l/r (bottom, at it's worse point), and about 50/50 t/b with a very slight tilt.

cwazzy · July 25, 2007 4:49AM

<< It's a tough card due to centering, but I don't see how they ever decided that it was worthy of a 10!! I'd expect an 8 with an outside shot at a 9.

Actually, the centering is 41/59 l/r (bottom, at it's worse point), and about 50/50 t/b with a very slight tilt. >>

What tool do you use to be that precise on centering? Just curious.

Chris

mikeschmidt · July 25, 2007 5:16AM

buy the card, not the holder

digicat · July 25, 2007 5:50AM

<< What tool do you use to be that precise on centering? Just curious. >>

JRuler plus the basic Windows calculator.

Get the image, blow it up some, then use your curser and JRuler to figure out the measurements for the edge borders.

Left Centering = (Left Edge) / (Right Edge + Left Edge)
Right Centering = (Right Edge) / (Right Edge + Left Edge)

jrinck · July 25, 2007 5:53AM

<< buy the card, not the holder >>

Why bother with the holder, then?

stitzen · July 25, 2007 5:57AM

If one doesn't like the grade, simply pass it by. Why do we continue to talk about the supposed preferred grading that 4SC or random_high_volume dealer gets?

I'n thinking for every one of these, they get 100 cards that are graded lower than they think they get.

tombo · July 25, 2007 6:27AM

Not that the card is a high end 10, but the l - r centering is better than 40/60.

cwazzy · July 25, 2007 6:30AM

<< 

<< What tool do you use to be that precise on centering? Just curious. >>

JRuler plus the basic Windows calculator.

Get the image, blow it up some, then use your curser and JRuler to figure out the measurements for the edge borders.

Left Centering = (Left Edge) / (Right Edge + Left Edge)
Right Centering = (Right Edge) / (Right Edge + Left Edge) >>

Thanks digicat! I may have to go home and play with that a little.

Chris

lawnmowerman · July 25, 2007 9:07AM

Well what do you know?

A 4sc card

TNTonPMS · July 25, 2007 9:12AM

Nice . . .

nam812 · July 25, 2007 9:39AM

<< Thanks digicat! I may have to go home and play with that a little.

>>

Hey, this is a family message board.

Stingray · July 25, 2007 9:45PM

GEM-MT 10: Gem Mint.

A PSA Gem Mint 10 card is a virtually perfect card. Attributes include four perfectly sharp corners, sharp focus and full original gloss. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for a slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. The image must be centered on the card within a tolerance not to exceed approximately 55/45 to 60/40 percent on the front, and 75/25 percent on the reverse.

Is that card within this range??

ArnyVee · July 25, 2007 11:02PM

I don't know....but, no matter how many cards you grade a day, I cannot justify grading this one as a 10 based on just eye appeal alone.

I'd send that thing in for hopes of a 9 and with realistically a chance at a solid 8. It's sad the treatment that 4SC gets as opposed to our small subs that we submit.

Leiascards · July 26, 2007 12:21AM

It does appear to be in the centering range though, just barely. Its worse problem is the slight tilt to the right. I don't believe the preferential treatment as I doubt the graders know who the cards they are grading belong to. I do believe though as a grader the human factor eventually comes in. If you have a stack of 100 cards in front of you and the first 75 are 10s, a person will just natuarally start assuming the others are graded just the same and not look as hard at the rest.. Just human nature.

yankeeno7 · July 26, 2007 12:32AM

I know this is taboo but.....818......

does this look like a PSA 10 to you? Centering question?

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