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goose3 · July 16, 2007 9:35AM

***Update*** Just spoke with them on the phone. Very nice and professional about the whole thing. Bottom line, everything worked out to both party's satisfaction. He answered and addressed my concerns and I in turn told him a check would go out tomorrow.

MuckyMutt · July 16, 2007 10:13AM

Uhmmm, it smells like someone left a dead fish out on a hot day...

stown · July 16, 2007 10:21AM

<< <i>She then tells me that "Maybe they would" basically let me out. >>

Translation:

We f-ed up.

Refuse to pay and let HUNT take the deserved heat

goose3 · July 16, 2007 10:55AM

F1ferrari · July 16, 2007 11:07AM

Surely they wouldn't be stupid enough to charge your card for the auction. Unless you agreed to allowing them to use the credit card for payment, and if they did charge it for the auction I'd call my card's band and tell them the situation and tell them to start a charge-back. If they value their cardholders, they would go after Hunt for fraudulant use of your cc.

That's if they hit your card, if not let Hunt sort it out. They started the whole mess to start with.

goose3 · July 16, 2007 11:11AM

I don't want anyone here thinking I wouldn't honor my bids. That's not the case but I'm not about to freely hand my money over on something that their website showed that I lost.

baseballfanatic · July 16, 2007 2:09PM

I have never had a problem with Hunt and find them to be one of, if not the best in the biz.
I think your friend was right, and a consignor set too high of a reserve and decided to accept your highest offer. (rather than the high bidder rejecting the lot)
Sometimes it does take a couple of days to iron out if you are a winner because of the live, email and phone bids being from a different location then their usual PA address.

goose3 · July 16, 2007 7:46PM

stown · July 17, 2007 12:05AM

<< <i>I feel as though if that is the case, then I should have been called and offered the card, not been sent an invoice. I didn't win the card at auction (if that is the case). >>

I'm pretty sure that is the case, hence the reason why HUNT will let it slide.

packCollector · July 17, 2007 12:50AM

I am assuming that when you say DNS , you mean there wasn't any price listed on the website , a price of "0".

here is my experience with the auction, I was bidding on the phone , 3 lots that I won live on the phone showed up with "0" on the website . I do not think the website was official prices , they sent them back from the floor to Pennsylvania and someone input them. the lots were also about 100 behind on the website compared to the live auction.

I have bought from them many times and never a problem and they stand behind everything. If they say it was clerical then it was probably clerical as I know they did exist since some of my wins were not entered and would have showed with the same "0" winning bid which you thought was unsold.

I highly doubt they said after the fact sell it to him and send him an invoice.

CDsNuts · July 17, 2007 1:13AM

That's fine, but here's the thing: She told him the results would be on the website that night. When goose goes to check those results, it says his lot didn't sell. After that, he tries to contact them and they are unreachable. Clerical error, mechanical error, whatever- it doesn't really matter because the error is on their end. There's no way he's legally bound to honor his bid because any mistake that was made was made on their end. Is goose supposed his money tied up "just in case" they made a mistake and he was the high bidder?

It's also fishy that the final price just happens to be goose's high bid. I'm also thinking goose had the highest bid but didn't meet the reserve and they decided to sell to him. I know when we set bids on items we're willing to pay that amount if it gets that high. However, our hope is always that we can get the card cheaper and goose wasn't even given that opportunity. Sure you could say that if the reserve was exactly the amount of goose's bid, the situation would be the same. But it wasn't and it isn't.

My advice to you, goose, is decide asap whether or not you're going to buy the card and stand behind that decision regardless of what happens. If you walk into this indecisively, you could end up being backed into a corner.

originalisbest · July 17, 2007 1:28AM

Good advice from CDsNuts. Goose, I hope it works out quickly.

packCollector · July 17, 2007 1:32AM

CD , no reason to get all fired up, I am not giving any opinion on what goose should do. I am just telling you my experience with them . as far as auction houses go , I think they are one of the tops in terms of integrity. this is also a live auction which they are one of the last so for many it is confusing since you can bid so many different ways and in this day and age everyone takes what is on the internet as gospel.

CDsNuts · July 17, 2007 1:45AM

Sorry if the tone of my post was misleading. I'm not fired up at all. I'm sure Hunt is fine to deal with, but in this case they clearly made at least 3 mistakes.

You're right though. "Live" auctions have gotten kind of ridiculous in terms of being there and bidding, bidding over the phone, and bidding online. It's gotta be hard to keep everything straight at all times. Although it seems to be working in the auction houses favor because realized prices are at an all-time high.

Lee

packCollector · July 17, 2007 2:47AM

FWIW, I just went back and checked the lots that I won(on the phone on auction day which were showing 0 realized prices) and they are now updated and I did not contact them about them.

CDsNuts · July 17, 2007 3:07AM

Glad to hear it. When I make a mistake as a seller, I always own up to it and give the buyer mutliple options. Sounds like they do the same. packcollector- sounds like you are right about them. Now stop getting so fired up.

packCollector · July 17, 2007 3:19AM

Lee , you got me

goose3 · July 17, 2007 4:04AM

Mr Hunt was a very decent person to speak with. He understood my concerns and explained things to me in a more than satisfactory manner. After speaking with him. I wouldn't hesitate to bid in another of their sales.

Ladder7 · July 17, 2007 4:11AM

good news.

originalisbest · July 17, 2007 4:51AM

Glad it worked out goose!

baseballfanatic · July 17, 2007 6:12AM

David Hunt is one of the best there is. If more auction houses operated like Hunt and REA, the card and memorabilia industry would be much more reputable...

stown · July 17, 2007 6:56AM

Great news

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