Hypothetical submission question.

milbroco · June 27, 2007 11:33AM

Lets say you have about 20 1972 Basketball cards or any other vintage group of the same year and mfgr. and they are all solid 10's.
Do you think the graders would give just one or two 10's thinking to themselves that nobody could have this many vintage 10's in 1 submission?
I was just wondering because I do have several groups like this (at least they really do appear to be 10's to me) and I was wondering if it would be better to submit only a few at a time with other cards or just go ahead and submit them all at once.
Thanks,
Bob

EagleEyeKid · June 27, 2007 11:53AM

Be a man! Send them all at once.

jdip9 · June 27, 2007 11:57AM

perhaps the reverse logic could hold true too - PSA grades the first couple and they are 10's.....and the next 18 are in comparble condition so most of them must be 10's too!

julen23 · June 27, 2007 12:02PM

again again again

seriously consider service level your submitting under.

cheq it!

julen

lawnmowerman · June 27, 2007 12:04PM

<< Be a man! Send them all at once. >>

I agree. If they are really 10 material, I would submit them all in one sub.

chaz43 · June 27, 2007 12:05PM

You'll lose your ass on that bet. chaz

dontippet · June 27, 2007 12:12PM

I have seen a number of submissions on this board that had a majority of 10's. Anybody want to show one?

lawnmowerman · June 27, 2007 12:26PM

<< I have seen a number of submissions on this board that had a majority of 10's. Anybody want to show one? >>

PSA Order Status for Submission 613696

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 31783143 1994 EXCALIBUR 22K 5 BRETT FAVRE N/A 10
1 31783144 1994 EXCALIBUR 22K 5 BRETT FAVRE N/A 10
2 31783145 2005 PLAYOFF HONORS 38 BRETT FAVRE N/A 10
3 31783146 1999 PACIFIC PARAMOUNT 66 TROY AIKMAN N/A 10
4 31783147 1999 PACIFIC PARAMOUNT 89 BARRY SANDERS PREMIERE DATE 8
5 31783148 1994 PLAYOFF 2 EMMITT SMITH SUPER BOWL REDEMPTION 9
6 31783149 1993 PINNACLE 3 EMMITT SMITH SUPER BOWL XXVII 9
7 31783150 1996 CLASSIC NFL EXP. 1 EMMIT SMITH SUPER BOWL RED 9
8 31783151 1995 CLASSIC EZ1 EMMITT SMITH NFL EXPERIENCE-ZONE 9
9 31783152 1994 COLLECTOR'S EDGE 44 EMMITT SMITH 1ST DAY 10
10 31783153 2002 PLAYOFF CONTENDER 54 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
11 31783154 NO SPEC INFO. NO GRADE-VOUCHER N/A Not Holdered, No Holder Available
12 31783155 1991 BOWMAN 117 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
13 31783156 1992 COLLECTOR'S EDGE 32 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
14 31783157 1993 ULTRA 101 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
15 31783158 2004 FLEER HOT PROS. 56 EMMITT SMITH N/A 8
16 31783159 1998 SCORE SHOWCASE PP7 EMMITT SMITH ARTIST'S PROOF 9
17 31783160 1997 UD3 40 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
18 31783161 2000 PLAYOFF CONTENDER 23 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
19 31783162 1994 PACIFIC 31 EMMITT SMITH MARQUEE PRISMS-GOLD 9
20 31783163 1995 ACTION PACKED 2 EMMITT SMITH PROMO 10
21 31783164 1996 C.E. ADVANTAGE V7 EMMITT SMITH VIDEO 9
22 31783165 1993 WILD CARD E.SMITH/Q.ISMAIL SUPERCHROME BACK 2 BACK 10
23 31783166 2002 DONRUSS ELITE CT-24 F.TAYLOR/E.SMITH COLLEGE TIES 9
24 31783167 1992 SKYBOX IMPACT 308 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
25 31783168 2002 U.D. AUTHENTICS 21 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
26 31783169 1996 UPPER DECK SILVER 188 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
27 31783170 1993 PRO SET POWER 100 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
28 31783171 1995 PRO LINE 11 EMMITT SMITH MVP REDEMPTION 9
29 31783172 2003 FLEER AVANT 9 EMMITT SMITH DRAW PLAY 10
30 31783173 1995 SELECT CERTIFIED 17 EMMITT SMITH MIRROR GOLD 10
30 31783174 1995 SELECT CERTIFIED 17 EMMITT SMITH MIRROR GOLD 10
31 31783175 2002 TOPPS PRISTINE 50 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
32 31783176 NO SPEC INFO. NO GRADE-VOUCHER N/A Not Holdered, No Holder Available
33 31783177 1998 TOPPS CHROME MG12 EMMITT SMITH MEASURES OF GREATNESS 9
34 31783178 1994 FINEST 1 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR 9
35 31783179 1994 FINEST 202 TROY AIKMAN REFRACTOR 10
36 31783180 1993 WILD CARD PROMO SCP-1 EMMITT SMITH SUPERCHROME 10
37 31783181 1996 SCORE DREAM TEAM 3 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
38 31783182 2002 PAC. ADRENALINE 5 EMMITT SMITH PLAYMAKERS 9
39 31783183 1991 PINNACLE 42 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
40 31783184 1992 DOG TAGS 41 MICHAEL IRVIN N/A 9
41 31783185 1992 DOG TAGS 40 TROY AIKMAN N/A 9
42 31783186 1992 DOG TAGS 42 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
43 31783187 2000 UD PROS & PROS. P5 EMMITH SMITH PROMOTION 10
44 31783188 1997 COLLECTOR'S EDGE 15 EMMITT SMITH EXTREME FURY 10
45 31783189 2001 PLAYOFF HONORS 56 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
46 31783190 1992 WILD CARD P-2 EMMITT SMITH STAT SMASHERS-PROMO 10
47 31783191 1992 SPORT DECKS EMMITT SMITH PROMO ACES 9
48 31783192 1992 ACTION PACKED 283 EMMITT SMITH BRAILLE 9
49 31783193 2000 U.D. LEGENDS LJ-ES EMMITT SMITH LEGENDARY JERSEYS 10
50 31783194 2003 ULTIMATE COLL. 22 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
51 31783195 2003 ULTIMATE COLL. 22 EMMITT SMITH GOLD 9
52 31783196 2003 FINEST 14 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR 9
53 31783197 1996 ZENITH Z-TEAM 4 EMMITT SMITH PROMO 10
54 31783198 1998 TOPPS CHROME MG12 EMMITT SMITH MEASURES OF GREATNESS-REF 10
55 31783199 2000 FINEST 201 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
56 31783200 1997 FLAIR SHOWCASE 22 EMMITT SMITH ROW 0 10
57 31783201 2002 FINEST 28 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR 10
58 31783202 1993 ACTION PACKED RB8 EMMITT SMITH RUSHERS 10
59 31783203 1994 COLL. CHOICE 215 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
60 31783204 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST CUT BC2 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR 9
61 31783205 1995 COLLECTOR'S EDGE 4 EMMITT SMITH EDGETECH-22K GOLD 10
62 31783206 2000 SKYBOX E-X 12 EMMITT SMITH E-XCEPTIONAL RED 10
63 31783207 1993 SCORE 14 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
64 31783208 1995 PINNACLE 73 EMMITT SMITH TROPHY COL.-ARTIST'S PRF. 8
65 31783209 1994 PINNACLE 81 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
66 31783210 1994 PINNACLE 150 TROY AIKMAN N/A 10
67 31783211 1994 SCORE 330 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
68 31783212 2004 PLAYOFF CONTENDER 2 EMMITT SMITH PLAYOFF TICKET 10
69 31783213 2003 TOPPS 10 EMMITT SMIYH SUPER BOWL XXXVII-GOLD 10
70 31783214 1996 ZENITH 16 EMMITT SMITH NOTEWORTHY 95 9
71 31783215 1995 BOWMAN'S BEST 37 EMMITT SMITH BLACK REFRACTOR 9
72 31783216 1997 FINEST 260 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR W/COATING 10
73 31783217 1996 FINEST 193 MICHAEL IRVIN N/A 10
74 31783218 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST M.I 4 SMTH/RHT/WRR/MRTN ATOMIC REFRACTOR 10
75 31783219 1997 BOWMAN'S BEST M.I MI4 SMTH/LVNS/ALLN/GRGE N/A 10
76 31783220 1997 BOWMAN'S BEST M.I MI4 SMTH/LVNS/ALLN/GRGE REFRACTOR 10
77 31783221 2003 PLAYOFF ABSOLUTE 67 EMMITT SMITH MEMORABILIA 10
78 31783222 2003 FLEER MYSTIQUE 1 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
79 31783223 1998 SP AUTHENTIC SE27 EMMITT SMITH MAXIMUM IMPACT 9
80 31783224 2003 PLAYOFF CONTENDER 27 EMMITT SMITH PLAYOFF TICKET 10
81 31783225 2001 PAC. IMPRESSIONS 38 EMMITT SMITH RED BACK 10
82 31783226 2004 U.D. REFLECTIONS 1 EMMITT SMITH RED 10
83 31783227 2000 TOPPS GALLERY H8 EMMITT SMITH HERITAGE 9
84 31783228 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST M.I 4 SMTH/RHT/WRR/MRTN REFRACTOR 10
85 31783229 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST CUT BC2 EMMITT SMITH ATOMIC REFRACTOR 10
86 31783230 2000 BOWMAN'S BEST F3 EMMITT SMITH FRANCHISE 2000 9
87 31783231 1996 SELECT CERTIFIED 27 EMMITT SMITH ARTIST PROOF 9
88 31783232 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 1 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR 9
89 31783233 1997 BOWMAN'S BEST CUT BC13 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR 10
90 31783234 1997 FINEST 290 EMMITT SMITH N/A 9
91 31783235 1997 PINNACLE CERT. 3 EMMITT SMITH CERTIFIED TEAM-GOLD 9
92 31783236 1995 TOPPS FIN.BOOSTER 180 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR 9
93 31783237 1997 PINNACLE CERT. 1 EMMITT SMITH MIRROR RED 10
94 31783238 2001 FINEST AUTOGRAPHS FAES EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
95 31783239 1998 C.E. SUPER BOWL 4 EMMITT SMITH CARD SHOW-PROOF 10
96 31783240 2000 TOPPS CHROME 34 EMMITT SMITH REFRACTOR 9
97 31783241 2003 BOWMAN CHROME 28 EMMITT SMITH GOLD REFRACTOR 9
98 31783242 1996 SCORE 1 EMMITT SMITH ARTIST'S PROOF 7
99 31783243 2004 ULTIMATE COLL. 1 EMMITT SMITH GOLD 10
100 31783244 2003 UPPER DECK 22 EMMITT SMITH PATCH COLLECTION 9
101 31783245 1991 PACIFIC 107 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
101 31783246 1991 PACIFIC 107 EMMITT SMITH N/A 10
102 31783247 1998 ULTRA CANTON CLASSIC 7 EMMITT SMITH N/A 8
103 31783248 1998 COLL.EDGE ODYSSEY EMMITT SMITH PRODIGIES-AUTOGRAPHS 9
104 31783249 1997 PINN.TOTALLY CERT 6 TROY AIKMAN PLATINUM RED 10
105 31783250 1996 7-ELEVEN EMMITT SMITH SPRINT PHONE CARDS 10
106 31783251 2003 SP AUTHENTIC 143 NATHAN HORTON AUTOGRAPH-SP LIMITED 10
107 31783252 2003 UD ROOKIE UPDATE 194 MAREK SVATOS N/A 10
108 31783253 2005 UD ROOKIE UPDATE 264 BRULE/GAGNE INSPIRATIONS DUAL AUTO. 10
109 31783254 2005 UD ROOKIE UPDATE 269 KOSTITSYN/FROLOV INSPIRATIONS DUAL AUTO. 10
109 31783255 2005 UD ROOKIE UPDATE 269 KOSTITSYN/FROLOV INSPIRATIONS DUAL AUTO. 10
110 31783256 2005 ULTIMATE COLL. 131 RYANE CLOWE AUTOGRAPH 10
111 31783257 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 188 ALEXANDER STEEN AUTOGRAPH 9
112 31783258 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 198 DANIEL PAILLE AUTOGRAPH 10
113 31783259 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 134 JIM SLATER AUTOGRAPH 10
114 31783260 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 208 ERIK CHRISTENSEN AUTOGRAPH 10
114 31783261 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 208 ERIK CHRISTENSEN AUTOGRAPH 10
114 31783262 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 208 ERIK CHRISTENSEN AUTOGRAPH 10
115 31783263 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 275 COLBY ARMSTRONG N/A 10
116 31783264 2005 U.D. ARTIFACTS 243 DUSTIN PENNER N/A 10
117 31783265 2005 ULTIMATE COLL. 99 A. PEREZHOGIN AUTOGRAPH 10
118 31783266 2005 ULTIMATE COLL. 108 CAM BARKER AUTOGRAPH 10
119 31783267 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 191 RYAN WHITNEY AUTOGRAPH 10
120 31783268 2003 SP AUTHENTIC 102 JOHN-MICHAEL LILES AUTOGRAPH-SP LIMITED 10
121 31783269 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 191 RYAN WHITNEY AUTOGRAPH 10
122 31783270 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 184 RYANE CLOWE AUTOGRAPH 10
122 31783271 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 184 RYANE CLOWE AUTOGRAPH 10
122 31783272 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 184 RYANE CLOWE AUTOGRAPH 10
123 31783273 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 192 R.J. UMBERGER AUTOGRAPH 9
123 31783274 2005 SP AUTHENTIC 192 R.J. UMBERGER AUTOGRAPH 9

Date Received: 03/29/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 06/01/2007
Date Shipped: 06/04/2007

GlynRParson · June 28, 2007 4:24AM

you wont get more then a few on something as old as 1972 topps basketball. You'd probably get more 8s then 10s

stown · June 28, 2007 4:55AM

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<< I have seen a number of submissions on this board that had a majority of 10's. Anybody want to show one? >>

PSA Order Status for Submission 613696

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE

Date Received: 03/29/2007
Date of Grades Posted: 06/01/2007
Date Shipped: 06/04/2007 >>

ZING!

muchuckwagon · June 28, 2007 5:13AM

<< I have seen a number of submissions on this board that had a majority of 10's. Anybody want to show one? >>

I was 23/25 in terms of getting 10's.......

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stown · June 28, 2007 5:16AM

Oh snap, double ZING

milbroco · June 28, 2007 6:01AM

OK I see these two submissions with a number of 10's....but..........................these are modern submissions and easier to get 10's. My question was for more vintage cards. I do have a number of 1975 Basketball I am preparing to send in tomorrow so I guess I will see when they pop.
Anyone want to show me a submission of vintage (lets call it pre 1977) with quite a number of 10's?
Thanks,
Bob

CDsNuts · June 28, 2007 6:06AM

Why don't you scan a few for us just for fun?

Lee

handyman · June 28, 2007 6:19AM

Yes, post some pics!!

stown · June 28, 2007 6:21AM

<< Why don't you scan a few for us just for fun?

Lee >>

It always helps to have an extra set of eyes

We won't be biased but will be brutally honest

milbroco · June 28, 2007 6:54AM

OK I will post some scans tonight.
Thanks,
Bob

milbroco · June 28, 2007 7:15AM

I scanned a couple real quick. These are probably the best four. Thanks for the replies which made me look at them more closely. I will not be sending them all in.
Thanks,
Bob

CDsNuts · June 28, 2007 8:38AM

Those all look 8-9ish to me. You can tell some corners are touched. I'm guessing you haven't submitted much 70s stuff to PSA if you think those will all be 10s. Look at them through a loupe and you'll see the touched corners. These cards scream "vending" because they are otherwise really nice besides the one or two slightly touched corners on each card.

I think they're great cards, but if you're expecting 10s, you will be disappointed.

Lee

GlynRParson · June 28, 2007 8:54PM

I agree with CDnuts. Beautiful but not 10s. unless you would get lucky on one.

rbeaton · June 28, 2007 11:40PM

Here's one of mine which is mostly 10's. You just need to send in cards without corners

Robert

PSA Order Status for Submission # 576156

LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 31182891 1976 ISALY'S FRED LYNN SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
2 31182892 1976 ISALY'S GREG LUZINSKI SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
3 31182893 1976 ISALY'S MICKEY LOLICH SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
4 31182894 1976 ISALY'S JOHN MONTEFUSCO SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
5 31182895 1976 ISALY'S JERRY MORALES SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
6 31182896 1976 ISALY'S JOHN MAYBERRY SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
7 31182897 1976 ISALY'S BAKE McBRIDE SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
8 31182898 1976 ISALY'S RICHIE ZISK SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
9 31182899 1976 ISALY'S DAVE CASH SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
10 31182900 1976 ISALY'S LARRY BOWA SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
11 31182901 1976 ISALY'S JIMMY WYNN SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
12 31182902 1976 ISALY'S JEFF BURROUGHS SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
13 31182903 1976 ISALY'S JOSE CARDENAL SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
14 31182904 1976 ISALY'S CESAR CEDENO SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
15 31182905 1976 ISALY'S DON GULLETT SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
16 31182906 1976 ISALY'S RANDY JONES SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
17 31182907 1976 ISALY'S TITO FUENTES SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
18 31182908 1976 ISALY'S WILLIE HORTON SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
19 31182909 1976 ISALY'S DON KESSINGER SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 9
20 31182910 1976 ISALY'S AL HRABOSKY SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
21 31182911 1976 ISALY'S DAVE KINGMAN SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
22 31182912 1976 ISALY'S JERRY KOOSMAN SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
23 31182913 1976 ISALY'S JOHN CANDELARIA SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
24 31182914 1976 ISALY'S BOB WATSON SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
25 31182915 1976 ISALY'S WILBUR WOOD SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
26 31182916 1976 ISALY'S MIKE TYSON SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
27 31182917 1976 ISALY'S TED SIMMONS SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
28 31182918 1976 ISALY'S RENNIE STENNETT SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
29 31182919 1976 ISALY'S REGGIE SMITH SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
30 31182920 1976 ISALY'S RUSTY STAUB SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
31 31182921 1976 ISALY'S ANDY THORNTON SWEET WM. DISCS-CUBS 10
32 31182922 1976 ISALY'S LUIS TIANT SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
33 31182923 1976 ISALY'S MANNY SANGUILLEN SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
34 31182924 1976 ISALY'S STEVE ROGERS SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
35 31182925 1976 ISALY'S AL OLIVER SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
36 31182926 1976 ISALY'S DOC MEDICH SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
37 31182927 1976 ISALY'S ANDY MESSERSMITH SWEET WM. DISCS-DODGERS 10
38 31182928 1976 ISALY'S RICK MONDAY SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10
39 31182929 1976 ISALY'S CARLOS MAY SWEET WM. DISCS-WHITE SOX 10
40 31182930 1976 ISALY'S BILL MADLOCK SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 8
41 31182931 1976 ISALY'S JERRY REUSS SWEET WILLIAM DISCS 10

Date Received: 06/29/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 07/21/2005
Date Shipped: 07/21/2005

Leiascards · June 28, 2007 11:54PM

I agree there are no way any of those 4 are 10s. With the soft corner and the printing flaws on the Karl and the Warner might knock them to 6 or 7 defintly no better than an 8.

1960toppsguy · June 29, 2007 12:28AM

SAVE YOUR MONEY, REALLY! Not even close to PSA-10 material, and those are the best ones????????

brianligon · June 29, 2007 1:47AM

Here's my best sub ever. It proved to me that, even with vintage cards, PSA will not hesitate to give each and every card in a sub a 10 if they deserve it.

1 12566472 1970 TOPPS 544 REDS TEAM N/A 10
1 12566473 1970 TOPPS 544 REDS TEAM N/A 9
1 12566474 1970 TOPPS 544 REDS TEAM N/A 10
1 12566475 1970 TOPPS 544 REDS TEAM N/A 10
2 12566476 1970 TOPPS 478 BOB HEISE N/A 10
3 12566477 1970 TOPPS 473 DON BRYANT N/A 9
4 12566478 1970 TOPPS 535 ANDY KOSCO N/A 9
4 12566479 1970 TOPPS 535 ANDY KOSCO N/A 10
5 12566480 1970 TOPPS 496 STEVE WHITAKER N/A 10
5 12566481 1970 TOPPS 496 STEVE WHITAKER N/A 10
6 12566482 1970 TOPPS 518 BILL MELTON N/A 9
7 12566483 1970 TOPPS 511 JOE HOERNER N/A 10
7 12566484 1970 TOPPS 511 JOE HOERNER N/A 9
8 12566485 1970 TOPPS 487 CISCO CARLOS N/A 9
8 12566486 1970 TOPPS 487 CISCO CARLOS N/A 9
9 12566487 1970 TOPPS 491 GRAIG NETTLES N/A 9
10 12566488 1970 TOPPS 481 JOSE TARTABULL N/A 10
11 12566489 1970 TOPPS 542 CHECKLIST 547-633 BROWN BAT ON FRONT 9
11 12566490 1970 TOPPS 542 CHECKLIST 547-633 BROWN BAT ON FRONT 9
12 12566491 1970 TOPPS 531 RON CLARK N/A 9
13 12566492 1970 TOPPS 510 TONY OLIVA N/A 9
13 12566493 1970 TOPPS 510 TONY OLIVA N/A 10
13 12566494 1970 TOPPS 510 TONY OLIVA N/A 10
13 12566495 1970 TOPPS 510 TONY OLIVA N/A 10
13 12566496 1970 TOPPS 510 TONY OLIVA N/A 9
13 12566497 1970 TOPPS 510 TONY OLIVA N/A 10
14 12566498 1970 TOPPS 537 JOE MORGAN N/A 9
14 12566499 1970 TOPPS 537 JOE MORGAN N/A 9

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