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cardpool · February 14, 2007 2:21AM

1975 Topps minis. I just opened a pack of these recently.

yankeeno7 · February 14, 2007 2:29AM

Concepcion, Thornton, Spikes, Krausse, and Barr have a good chance of not even being holdered due to their diamond cut. Those arent just tilts so they will not measure up within size requirements.
The others have shots at 7 or 8 but no higer. The Duncan looks like it is an alien baby. I wouldnt even consider sending that one.

cardpool · February 14, 2007 2:31AM

Little new at the lingo. What do you mean my "holdered" and "diamond cut" and "tilts?"

Stingray · February 14, 2007 2:31AM

<< Concepcion, Thornton, Spikes, Krausse, and Barr have a good chance of not even being holdered due to their diamond cut. Those arent just tilts so they will not measure up within size requirements.
The others have shots at 7 or 8 but no higer. The Duncan looks like it is an alien baby. I wouldnt even consider sending that one. >>

I think you hit it the nail on the head.

yankeeno7 · February 14, 2007 2:34AM

Holdered means when you send a card in for grading and they seal it in the hard plastic.
Tilt-when the card is square but the picture is actually tilted.
Diamond Cut-when the card is not cut at the right measurements and is cut like a odd diamond shape.

cardpool · February 14, 2007 2:42AM

Would the print line on the top of Renko lower the grading for this card?

What about those print circles like on the Barr card in the letter "A" in Giants?

Brohamer's got a nasty print thing on the left side

The Roberts card's got a ding in the lower left corner

Looks like the only decent card here is Leon.

cravetopps · February 14, 2007 2:44AM

save your money and buy them on ebay, graded, NM-MT or MT. It will be cheaper.

cardpool · February 14, 2007 2:47AM

yankeeno7 · February 14, 2007 2:53AM

Many of us understand that feeling, cardpool. I know I have opened up vintage packs and have had similar results...but in the same token, I have opened vintage packs and have been very pleased! Good luck on future breaks!

RipublicaninMass · February 14, 2007 3:01AM

<< Many of us understand that feeling, cardpool. I know I have opened up vintage packs and have had similar results...but in the same token, I have opened vintage packs and have been very pleased! Good luck on future breaks! >>

I got hammered on my 75 mini's they are selling on ebay for 50 bucks..AND I pulled a brett!

Stone193 · February 14, 2007 5:03AM

<< Little new at the lingo. What do you mean my "holdered" and "diamond cut" and "tilts?" >>

Cardpool

A pic is worth a 1000 words: as you can see a TRUE diamond cut is NOT a rectange but rather rhomboid in shape - i.e. the corners are NOT at 90 degrees/right angle.

As was stated, the "tilt" card is a true rectangle and the corners ARE 90 degrees/right angle.

mike

storm888 · February 14, 2007 5:06AM

"save your money and buy them on ebay, graded, NM-MT or MT. It will be cheaper. "

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markj111 · February 14, 2007 5:13AM

Remember that the cards are greatly enlarged, which exagerates any flaws. I think Concepcion looks like a possible 8.

Morgoth · February 14, 2007 5:24AM

There is no way the Concepcion will not be graded it looks like a lock 8.

stown · February 14, 2007 5:49AM

<< Remember that the cards are greatly enlarged, which exagerates any flaws. I think Concepcion looks like a possible 8. >>

Prior to my first submission, I would agree with you 100%

Now seeing grades 1st hand, I HIGHLY encourage you to go by the scan rather than a naked eye.

My '55 Aaron alone is proof of that

cardpool · February 14, 2007 6:14AM

An 8 even with the tilt?

Shame PSA doesn't break down this stuff in their grading like BGS.

cardpool · February 14, 2007 6:18AM

Wouldn't the graders use some kind of magnification?

stown · February 14, 2007 6:51AM

<< Wouldn't the graders use some kind of magnification? >>

Exactly, hence the reason you should NOT ignore the scan.

markj111 · February 14, 2007 7:47AM

The flaws seen under magnification are what will knock it down to an 8. I suspect that the card looks quite sharp to the naked eye. The print dot is more of a concern to me than the slight tilt.

dtkk49a · February 14, 2007 8:34AM

The Leon card has potential. The rest are 8's and 7's

grote15 · February 14, 2007 12:59PM

save your money and buy them on ebay, graded, NM-MT or MT. It will be cheaper.

I agree with cravetopps. None of these cards with the possible exception of the Leon card has a shot at a 9 so you're better off buying them already slabbed on ebay. These days you can get PSA 8s for about $6 plus shipping.

zef204 · February 14, 2007 1:07PM

<< There is no way the Concepcion will not be graded it looks like a lock 8. >>

I agree. I had a Brock with the same amount of tilt and it graded a 9.

cardpool...

You'll find that people here are VERY harsh on scanned cards. If you are looking to get into the grading game, I suggest you start by submitting cards. That's how we all learned what will grade what. After the first couple submissions you will be greatly improved at guessing how your cards will grade.

grote15 · February 14, 2007 1:19PM

I agree with zef in general with regard to sending cards in to be graded, but in this case you'd be losing money if you sent these cards in and paid grading fees and shipping to and from PSA. Even a Concepcion PSA 9 only goes for about $20 on ebay and that card is an 8 at best. I'd recommend opening a few more packs and setting aside the very best cards to send in for grading. One pack is too small a sample, IMO.

cardpool · March 8, 2007 11:20AM

A big thanks to all of you for suggesting getting the Leon card graded only.

I submitted it and just checked the grade on PSA's website: it's a 9!!

I checked the population chart for the card.

It has only 1 listed for grade 9.

Question: how long does it take for your card to show up on the population report?

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