Mickey Mantle Frauds

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Just out of curiosity, I thought I would do a search on ebay for 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle to see if there are still frauds showing up. Its been a while since I last checked, so I wasnt holding out much hope. Boy am I dumb. Is this still a daily occurance?

With bids too!
Now looking for a 1950 Bowman Baseball Box as pictured below.
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  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I asked for a scan of the back we'll see if I get it.

    Donato
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  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Almost $9,000 with 6 days to go.

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
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  • WC
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    Did they pirate the picture from some other auction?

  • wolfbear
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    Just tried to add that cert # to a 1952 Topps set and it was accepted.

    So, nobody currently has it registered in any set on the PSA set registry ...


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  • WinPitcher
    WinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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    Wolf

    I was thinking of doing that too, then just deleting it. Even so, the way the guy has this auction set up inspires zero confidence.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • gmoneystyles
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    whoah! US $25,100.00!
    Now looking for a 1950 Bowman Baseball Box as pictured below.
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  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I emailed for a scan of the back. Nothing yet.

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
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  • Interesting bidder identities.....
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    For the love of the game
    And the cards that go with it
  • gmoneystyles
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    Current bid: US $41,099.00




    Time left: 5 days
    Now looking for a 1950 Bowman Baseball Box as pictured below.
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  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Got a scan of the back of the card, but the flips do not match.

    Should this flip have a hologram on the right, if it were to match the front? I thought the flip with the rounded corners had the hologram on the back and the flip with the square corners has no hologram.

    Donato

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  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I reported it to eBay. See if they can do something about it.

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
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  • gmoneystyles
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    Donato,

    Great research, took the guy long enough. Its still up I see.
    Now looking for a 1950 Bowman Baseball Box as pictured below.
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  • CON40
    CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
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    Donato;

    That back is a different card! Check it out clsoely... the front scan is an oversize Topps '52 card. The back is a standard 2.5 x 3.45 card! See the size of the insert on the holder? Must be from a reprint. What a dumbass!
  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Donato;

    That back is a different card! Check it out clsoely... the front scan is an oversize Topps '52 card. The back is a standard 2.5 x 3.45 card! See the size of the insert on the holder? Must be from a reprint. What a dumbass! >>



    He emailed me again today and insists the card is real. If it's real and he has it how come the two scans are from 2 different holders?

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

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  • 1967topps
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    Why are you so sure its a fake.
    Note the entire holder height is less in the scan of the back so maybe it
    was done at a different % setting in the scanner.
    ebay:1967topps
    1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
    Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Why are you so sure its a fake.
    Note the entire holder height is less in the scan of the back so maybe it
    was done at a different % setting in the scanner. >>



    Look closely at the scan. I overlapped them a little so you could see the holders and the flips or certs front and back are the same size, therefore the card should be the same size if it is the same card. Also look around the border of the card. Those are 2 different holders. The one with the back of the card has plastic around the edge of the card because the card is smaller. The front has less plastic because it is a holder for a larger card. Also the flip with the red rounded corners should have a hologram on the reverse side. This has no hologram.

    Donato

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  • Onlypsahockey
    Onlypsahockey Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
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    That overlapped image should be sent to eBay before someone loses 50K!

    Great work.

    Bob C.
    Past hockey sets: 57 Topps (83%) 7.61
    61 Topps (100%) 7.96
    62 Parkhurst (100%) 8.70
    63 Topps (100%) 7.96
    63 York WB's (50%) 8.52
    68 Topps (39%) 8.54
    69 Topps (3%) 9.00
    69 OPC (83%) 8.21
    71 Topps (100%) 9.21 #1 A.T.F.
    72 Topps (100%) 9.39
    73 Topps (13%) 9.35
    74 OPC WHA (95%) 8.57
    75 Topps (50%) 9.23
    77 OPC WHA (86%) 8.62 #1 A.T.F.
    88 Topps (5%) 10.00
  • WinPitcher
    WinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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    .please mail payment to-shawn france, p.o.box 2173 , noblesville, indiana, 46061 payment must be recevie within 7 days or neg feedback will be left.all sales final

    bidding is up to 46k

    to bid you must get verified by ebay. at a cost of 5 bucks. to the unkowing that gives this auction an air of legitimacy. I would hope that ebay would make sure some how that a person does truly have an item when the bidding gets like this.
    when i win I'll send the 50k to shawns po box. ;-)


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>That overlapped image should be sent to eBay before someone loses 50K!

    Great work.

    Bob C. >>



    Dropped eBay a line but no response yet.

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

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  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's been a few days since I emailed eBay about this auction but no response and auction is still running. They must not think much of my opinion. Oh well. Hope I was wrong, otherwise someone is going to be out a lot of money.

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

    Successful transactions: Shrub68 (Jim), MWallace (Mike)
  • doc
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    Boy, you guys are good....the front and back of the flips absolutely do not match. The front flip is very old, used before PSA went public back in 2000. The back of the flip is a new one....also shows the nasdac stock ticker symbol.

    Steve P.
  • williplett
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    He replied to an e-mail of mine that he would send scans of the back of the card, accept the use of an escrow Company and send me a pic of the card with an index card including his username on it.

    He never did send anything though. I would be surprised if this wasn't a scam.
  • WinPitcher
    WinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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    Item: mickey mantle 1952 topps #311 psa 8 (8764084191)
    This message was sent while the listing was active.
    shawn4842 is the seller.



    the card that i have does have the hologram on the back but my scanner is a cheap one and doesnt do holograms or chrome or silver but if you want give me a contact # and i will be more then happy to call u so u can pick the card up in person or any place that you want..



    His reply to my question.

    his scanner will not show holograms <eyeroll>

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • divecchia
    divecchia Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Item: mickey mantle 1952 topps #311 psa 8 (8764084191)
    This message was sent while the listing was active.
    shawn4842 is the seller.


    the card that i have does have the hologram on the back but my scanner is a cheap one and doesnt do holograms or chrome or silver but if you want give me a contact # and i will be more then happy to call u so u can pick the card up in person or any place that you want..



    His reply to my question.

    his scanner will not show holograms <eyeroll>

    Steve >>



    I guess his scanner is so cheap that it makes the PSA holder look different too. Yah, Yah...That explains it.

    Donato
    Hobbyist & Collector (not an investor).
    Donato's Complete US Type Set ---- Donato's Dansco 7070 Modified Type Set ---- Donato's Basic U.S. Coin Design Set

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  • WinPitcher
    WinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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    Well the auction ended at 50K plus, feedback was left from the buyer in 2 days. Seems Shawn delivered it in person. <eyeroll> Looking at the winners previous feedback she has won 3 other private auctions from? you guessed it Shawn!!!

    20 feedback buyer, that buys 2.00 legos was the winner.

    I wonder when Shawn is gonna sell some more Mantles.

    Steve




    Also, what is the final value fee for all this BS?




    Winners feedback, notice Shawn...
    Good for you.
  • rw2win
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    DICKHEAD
  • gmoneystyles
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    Now looking for a 1950 Bowman Baseball Box as pictured below.
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