1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold

gosteelers · September 14, 2005 1:05AM

That long, drawn out thread yesterday about sniping the Nomo '96 Mirror Gold brought up a question I had. Does anyone on here actively collect the above mentioned parallel set? If so, do you have any good stories to tell regarding it? Possibly looking to eventually take a plunge into collecting this issue.

Thanks,
Mark

sagard · September 14, 2005 1:12AM

You should have started collecting it last week. The cards don't come up very often at all. I'd guess it's a 4-6 year project, minimum.

RipublicaninMass · September 14, 2005 1:20AM

I have never even seen what these cards look like or where they came from. A little help for an ole' timer??

Stingray · September 14, 2005 1:35AM

Stingray

rlankhaar · September 14, 2005 2:13AM

I'm actively working on the Football Mirror Gold's. They are very hard to find-I feel fortunate when I'm able to add 1-2 cards per month to my set-thats been my average over the last year and a half. Sagard's right about it being a multi-year project, as at 2 cards a month it would take 5 years to complete a set, which is assuming you can grab what you find, as, for example, an Emmitt Smith card might only show up once every year, and you have to fight several big-time player collectors for this card.

I much prefer the football to the baseball issue though-the baseball has a more of a duller matte finish, while the football (and hockey) has a flat, shiny look to it.

DaBigHurt · September 14, 2005 9:13AM

I've thought about trying to start a set. It definitely looks challenging, and I'd rather go through the process of slowly accumulating the cards and knowing I had to really work at putting together a set than just buy the whole thing at one shot on Ebay.

SoFLPhillyFan · September 14, 2005 9:28AM

In football the 95 Select Certified Curtis Martin is a valuable card.

I have been looking to get a few for quite some time and can't seem to get them at the right price.

Nice looking sets.

Keith

bjork73 · September 14, 2005 7:16PM

Is anybody worried about backdoor sales on this set? I remember these cards being scorching hot once, and then take a BIG hit, and I'm not sure the dying-out of the insert/parallel craze can explain all of it if there's really only 30 sets out there.

Futureman · September 18, 2005 2:38AM

Here's something that made me think of this thread:Every Pat Verbeek Mirror Gold from 96-97.

rlankhaar · September 18, 2005 2:47AM

<< Here's something that made me think of this thread:Every Pat Verbeek Mirror Gold from 96-97. >>

I saw that too, except I found 3 more of those cards from a dealer I've bought from before. I'm not sure the print run was for only 30 - it was probably 35 like football. I know in at least for the football, when the product was released it was thought that the Mirror print runs were 30/60/90 for the Mirror Red/Blue/Gold, but later on it was stated that the print run was actually 35/50/90.

But getting 30 Mirror Gold's of one player is still impressive, even if his asking price is ridiculously high. I've also seen one guy who has 7-9 Mirror Blue Tom Glavines he tries the same trick with, but the few times he's listed it he's also (predictibly) had no bites on it.

gosteelers · September 18, 2005 12:01PM

<< 

<< Here's something that made me think of this thread:Every Pat Verbeek Mirror Gold from 96-97. >>

I saw that too, except I found 3 more of those cards from a dealer I've bought from before. I'm not sure the print run was for only 30 - it was probably 35 like football. I know in at least for the football, when the product was released it was thought that the Mirror print runs were 30/60/90 for the Mirror Red/Blue/Gold, but later on it was stated that the print run was actually 35/50/90.

But getting 30 Mirror Gold's of one player is still impressive, even if his asking price is ridiculously high. I've also seen one guy who has 7-9 Mirror Blue Tom Glavines he tries the same trick with, but the few times he's listed it he's also (predictibly) had no bites on it. >>

I don't think he's asking too much for these at all. I know there aren't any bids yet, but just think how long it took to get all 30 Verbeek's...

CDsNuts · September 18, 2005 12:31PM

Great buy....

Am I missing something here?

Lee

DaBigHurt · September 18, 2005 1:03PM

I believe the underbidder has been looking for that card for quite some time as it's one of the last cards he needs for a set. Apparently someone else also needs the card!

sagard · September 18, 2005 1:36PM

Yeah it appears the old juanfan was going to let that one go for $375...

rlankhaar · September 18, 2005 2:23PM

One of these bad boys just ended on the bay:

1996 Select Certified Mirror Red Set

I don't know what to think about the price, my gut feeling tells me it went a little cheaply, especially considering the work involved to put one together. Having mislabeled the year (3 times even!!!) probably hurt a little, but most of the bidders are guys who regularly buy these cards. Incidentaly, one of the underbidders is the guy who has 6-7 sets of the 1993 Finest Refractors (and quite a nice set of the mirrors from what I can tell). I'm just curious what the set would have brought if it were broken up.

Gosteelers - how long have you been collecting the 1996 Mirrors? Did you just start?

gosteelers · September 18, 2005 2:40PM

Yep, I just started not too long ago. I have a few hockey Golds so far, but that's it. How about you? Not too many Football Mirror Golds pop up on eBay, do they?

Mark

sagard · September 18, 2005 2:51PM

<< One of these bad boys just ended on the bay:

1996 Select Certified Mirror Red Set

I don't know what to think about the price, my gut feeling tells me it went a little cheaply, especially considering the work involved to put one together. Having mislabeled the year (3 times even!!!) probably hurt a little, but most of the bidders are guys who regularly buy these cards. Incidentaly, one of the underbidders is the guy who has 6-7 sets of the 1993 Finest Refractors (and quite a nice set of the mirrors from what I can tell). I'm just curious what the set would have brought if it were broken up.

Gosteelers - how long have you been collecting the 1996 Mirrors? Did you just start? >>

I think that mislabeling cost them quite a bit. I occasionally search "1996 mirror" and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I think whoever got those for $6 per card got a steal.

rlankhaar · September 18, 2005 2:53PM

As far as the Football Set, I have complete sets of the Base, Premium Stock, Red, and Artist Proof's sets. I'm Halfway on the Blue and Mirror Reds, and a quarter of the way on the Mirror Blue, Mirror Gold, and Premium Stock Mirror Reds. These cards are practically nonexistent at times on ebay.

I also have a handful of the baseball and hockey mirrors, but football takes all my attention.

Ryan

Allen · September 19, 2005 12:08AM

I am surprised to see that the 1997 Select Certified cards have not come up in this thread. I think a lot of people like the 97 better because they are numbered so there is no question as to haw many there are.

rlankhaar · September 19, 2005 12:46AM

<< I am surprised to see that the 1997 Select Certified cards have not come up in this thread. I think a lot of people like the 97 better because they are numbered so there is no question as to haw many there are. >>

Actually only the Totally Certified cards are numbered - the "regular" cards and the mirrors are still unnumbered.

Allen · September 19, 2005 5:00AM

That is what I was refering to beacuse they are the ones /30

DaBigHurt · September 24, 2005 2:00PM

Check out the latest escapades from our friend Juanfan19. A few weeks ago, he sells a PSA 9 Arod '96 mirror gold for $1,525 (thanks to the $3 makeup selling Ebayer that suddenly decides to spend thousands on mirror golds) to Wpix.

Linky

Wpix for whatever reason, decides to sell the same Arod PSA 9 and guess who winds up winning for $1,025?? but this time, for $500 less than what he sold it for?

LOL

If this wpix sale was legit on both ends, he wound up getting taken to the cleaners to the tune of $1,000.

NickM · September 24, 2005 3:41PM

That's juan sleazy seller.

Nick

gosteelers · September 27, 2005 1:43PM

Arod's back...Courtesy of Wpix...

Wpix the Shill

DaBigHurt · September 27, 2005 2:18PM

Well, at least they're not transparent about their shilling!

DaBigHurt · February 4, 2006 4:41PM

Since Juanfan put his batch of mirror golds on eBay, there have been only a handful that have come up for auction. Has anyone been trying to put together the set? I noticed Juanfan has the only set listed on the Set Registry.

NathanSr · January 5, 2007 2:41AM

Finally!!

NathanSr

gregm13 · January 5, 2007 2:56AM

I'm really trying to find any of the Marino mirror cards (red, blue, gold or premium stock red). Can anyone help me?

Regards,

Greg M.

rlankhaar · January 5, 2007 4:48AM

NathanSr -

Great cards! They can be really tough to find. Had you been looking awhile for one? Do you have all the other parallels in the set as well?

Greg-

Good luck with that. Its one of the hardest cards to find in the set. Someone posted a whole run of mirrors on ebay a month or two back, but they went "item no longer available for sale" within a day.

Estil · January 5, 2007 6:23AM

Say, isn't that where the legendary Mirror Black versions came from? I'd love to hear the whole story about that and what they look like.

NathanSr · January 5, 2007 6:39AM

rlankhaar -

I knew where both of these copies were for a year. They were both with the same seller and it took me that long to talk him down to a reasonable price.

I already have the mirror gold and mirror red versions graded in PSA 9 in my Seau Master Set.

I had a line on a mirror blue at a local card shop, however it turned out to have a huge rub mark right in the middle of the card. Best I can surmise is that it was a mark left by a machine at the factory and seemed as though it caused some surface material loss. I passed on that one regardless of the price.

NathanSr

rlankhaar · January 5, 2007 6:55AM

<< Say, isn't that where the legendary Mirror Black versions came from? I'd love to hear the whole story about that and what they look like. >>

The Mirror Blacks were in the 1997 Pinnacle Certified release. The little that I know of them is that they were an unmentioned card that were 1/1's that showed up in packs. Of course considering some of what I've heard about Pinnacle back then anything is possible.

bjork73 · January 23, 2007 8:49PM

I have heard of there being three copies of some Mirror Black cards... I'm guessing Pinnacle had one set for replacements and another to keep on hand for posterity... if my theory is correct, those two sets were sold in the liquidation process after Pinnacle filed for bankruptcy.

ajw · January 23, 2007 9:49PM

<< I'm really trying to find any of the Marino mirror cards (red, blue, gold or premium stock red). Can anyone help me?

Regards,

Greg M. >>

I found some on the Beckett.com marketplace. Not sure if this link will work, but I'll give it a shot.

gregm13 · January 23, 2007 11:47PM

<< 

<< I'm really trying to find any of the Marino mirror cards (red, blue, gold or premium stock red). Can anyone help me?

Regards,

Greg M. >>

I found some on the Beckett.com marketplace. Not sure if this link will work, but I'll give it a shot. >>

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, I'm looking for 1996 mirror cards.

Regards,

Greg M.

NathanSr · September 17, 2007 4:43AM

Just got these back form PSA:

PatriotTrading · June 23, 2025 2:50PM

Wanted to bump this thread. What are your thoughts on the Mirror Golds from any sport? Baseball is obviously the big seller. Football and Hockey look affordable though. Any thoughts? Any reason? I noticed in this thread that there may have been backdoored cards. The most graded is Gretzky at 44, Jeter at 25 and Barry at 17. After those more popular players, the pop report just falls to less than 5 for each graded

craig44 · June 23, 2025 5:45PM

the 96 set has a stated print run of 30. I have never heard of backdoored versions of it. the 97 set also has a ¨stated¨ print run of 30, but that is not so. there are no backdoored versions that i know of, but there were multiple printings. I think 5. so there are significantly more that 30 of the 97ś out there.

PatriotTrading · June 24, 2025 11:39AM

I forgot to add Gretzky's 44 PSA graded from 1996. There are also 19 I believe graded through BGS. Obviously over a 30 year period there are people regrading and then peeling and regrading.

hyperchipper09 · June 24, 2025 12:59PM

I've had these about a dozen years. Haven't really made an effort to track down Baseball or Football mirror golds. Great looking cards. Display well. Great 90's inserts .

ArtVandelay · June 24, 2025 10:50PM

The one thing I know about Pinnacle high-end cards from 1996-1998 is that if you even breathe on them, they will scratch. Obviously, if you can find them with the film in tact never remove it!

PatriotTrading · June 25, 2025 8:31AM

I actually like them better peeled. Just figuring out the best way to peel them

craig44 · June 25, 2025 9:44AM

@PatriotTrading said:
I actually like them better peeled. Just figuring out the best way to peel them

90s inserts ALWAYS look better peeled!!!

PatriotTrading · June 25, 2025 3:41PM

I peel them when I'm ready to send them in for grading. I've seen that most people dont peel though.

lwehlers · June 25, 2025 6:01PM

i do not peel refractors cards if they have the peel still on them. most of my 96 finest refractor set have the peels on them.

1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold

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