The Scottish dynasty had more right to sit on the English throne than the English kings did. As David I of Scotland was the nephew of Edgar the ætheling (David's father Malcolm had married Edgar's sister). Edgar was the true heir to the English throne in 1066. His father Edward the Exile was the eldest son of Eadmund Ironside, and therefore should have inherited the throne after Harthacnut's death, Edward the Confessor should not have, since Edward the confessor was a younger half brother of Eadmund's from Æthelred II's second marriage to Emma of Normandy. Eadmund Ironside's line came for Æthelred's first marriage to Ælfgifu.
The English Royal family is also decended from the line of Cerdic (the line of kings including such notables as Egbert, Æthelred I, Alfred the Great, Edward the Elder, Æthelstan, Eadmund I, Eadgar and Æthelred II). However the English royal family is further removed, Henry I married David I's sister. David I had the old royal blood in him Henry I did not, although his daughter Matilda and her line (Henry (II) Plantagenet) did as they got the true blood from the maternal side.
Henry II who's mother was Empress Matilda, who's mother was Edith of Scotland (aka Matilda), who's mother was Margaret (the ætheling's sister), who's father was Edward the Exile, who's father was Eadmund Ironside, who's father was Æthelred II.
Æthelred the Unready's father was Eadgar, who's father was Eadmund, who's father was Edward the Elder, who's father was Alfred the Great, who's father was Æthelwulf, who's father was Egbert (who is considered the first king of England), his father was Eahlmund, who father was Eafa, who's father was Eoppa, who's father was Ingild (this is the early 700s)... and it goes back a few more generations to Cerdic who died in 534.
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Python, your coins are simply beyond proper description!! Beyond words!! I'm flabbergasted!!
I love the toning on the second James shilling (it blows mine away). All of your coins exude originality and beauty. Thanks for sharing.
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"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
The English throne has been in the hands of pretenders since 1399, The Tudors were cold-blooded religious zealots, the Stuarts had just enough brain power to keep a heartbeat going, the Hanovers were no smarter than the Stuarts, but a public joke as well. The current Royal Family has been inbreed to the point of insanity, they make the Stuarts look smart and the Hanovers look serene.
That said, those are great coins Brett! I really like teh bust on this one:
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Syl, you must be breathless, and a Genealogical savant too.
I'm always amazed that Queen Anne had an issue of 17 children, and not a single one lived to assume the throne.....If Stork had been around I'm quite sure she could have saved the day.
BS, as always, a Murderer's Row of hammered, and I know they are most definitely much better looking in the flesh.....can you say 1700 tanner!
<< <i>The English throne has been in the hands of pretenders since 1399, The Tudors were cold-blooded religious zealots, the Stuarts had just enough brain power to keep a heartbeat going, the Hanovers were no smarter than the Stuarts, but a public joke as well. The current Royal Family has been inbreed to the point of insanity, they make the Stuarts look smart and the Hanovers look serene.
That said, those are great coins Brett! >>
.....GOD
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
The English throne has been in the hands of pretenders since 1399, The Tudors were cold-blooded religious zealots, the Stuarts had just enough brain power to keep a heartbeat going, the Hanovers were no smarter than the Stuarts, but a public joke as well. The current Royal Family has been inbreed to the point of insanity, they make the Stuarts look smart and the Hanovers look serene. >>
I would have thought either Mac or Jester would have gone after me for this one, have I lost my touch?
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You didn't see my last post? I laughed at you, knowing full well you're brain is deader than your skeletal remains excuse for a body.
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"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
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The true heirs to the throne!
<< <i>Stuarts!!
The true heirs to the throne! >>
Now why would you say that Mac????
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<< <i>Stuarts!!
The true heirs to the throne!
Arguably true, but not for the reasons you think.
The Scottish dynasty had more right to sit on the English throne than the English kings did. As David I of Scotland was the nephew of Edgar the ætheling (David's father Malcolm had married Edgar's sister). Edgar was the true heir to the English throne in 1066. His father Edward the Exile was the eldest son of Eadmund Ironside, and therefore should have inherited the throne after Harthacnut's death, Edward the Confessor should not have, since Edward the confessor was a younger half brother of Eadmund's from Æthelred II's second marriage to Emma of Normandy. Eadmund Ironside's line came for Æthelred's first marriage to Ælfgifu.
The English Royal family is also decended from the line of Cerdic (the line of kings including such notables as Egbert, Æthelred I, Alfred the Great, Edward the Elder, Æthelstan, Eadmund I, Eadgar and Æthelred II). However the English royal family is further removed, Henry I married David I's sister. David I had the old royal blood in him Henry I did not, although his daughter Matilda and her line (Henry (II) Plantagenet) did as they got the true blood from the maternal side.
Henry II who's mother was Empress Matilda, who's mother was Edith of Scotland (aka Matilda), who's mother was Margaret (the ætheling's sister), who's father was Edward the Exile, who's father was Eadmund Ironside, who's father was Æthelred II.
Æthelred the Unready's father was Eadgar, who's father was Eadmund, who's father was Edward the Elder, who's father was Alfred the Great, who's father was Æthelwulf, who's father was Egbert (who is considered the first king of England), his father was Eahlmund, who father was Eafa, who's father was Eoppa, who's father was Ingild (this is the early 700s)... and it goes back a few more generations to Cerdic who died in 534.
Good fun what?
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<< <i>Stuarts!!
The true heirs to the throne!
Absolutely!!! I couldn't agree with you more!!
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
I love the toning on the second James shilling (it blows mine away). All of your coins exude originality and beauty. Thanks for sharing.
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
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<< <i> So Æthelred how's this for you?
Good fun what? >>
Good fun to say the least!
The English throne has been in the hands of pretenders since 1399, The Tudors were cold-blooded religious zealots, the Stuarts had just enough brain power to keep a heartbeat going, the Hanovers were no smarter than the Stuarts, but a public joke as well. The current Royal Family has been inbreed to the point of insanity, they make the Stuarts look smart and the Hanovers look serene.
That said, those are great coins Brett! I really like teh bust on this one:
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<< <i>Now why would you say that Mac???? >>
Well, maybe I'm a bit Celt-Centric!
Syl, you must be breathless, and a Genealogical savant too.
I'm always amazed that Queen Anne had an issue of 17 children, and not a single one lived to assume the throne.....If Stork had been around I'm quite sure she could have saved the day.
BS, as always, a Murderer's Row of hammered, and I know they are most definitely much better looking in the flesh.....can you say 1700 tanner!
<< <i>The English throne has been in the hands of pretenders since 1399, The Tudors were cold-blooded religious zealots, the Stuarts had just enough brain power to keep a heartbeat going, the Hanovers were no smarter than the Stuarts, but a public joke as well. The current Royal Family has been inbreed to the point of insanity, they make the Stuarts look smart and the Hanovers look serene.
That said, those are great coins Brett! >>
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
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The English throne has been in the hands of pretenders since 1399, The Tudors were cold-blooded religious zealots, the Stuarts had just enough brain power to keep a heartbeat going, the Hanovers were no smarter than the Stuarts, but a public joke as well. The current Royal Family has been inbreed to the point of insanity, they make the Stuarts look smart and the Hanovers look serene. >>
I would have thought either Mac or Jester would have gone after me for this one, have I lost my touch?
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<< <i>I would have thought either Mac or Jester would have gone after me for this one, have I lost my touch? >>
My claymore is presently in the shoppe!!
Of course, I could start piping just outside your coin shop which would attract all manner of vermin......
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5
"For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22