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Can anyone translate the Hebrew?

AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭
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I came across this interesting item, but am as flumoxed by it as the seller: Jewish "Christ Money"???. The written German script in the second picture reads "1 Christ Money" with some numbers overwritten that I cannot identify (a Jewish year?). I cannot fully read the German script in the first photo, but it appears to translate the Hebrew. I'm wondering if it all might be kabbalistic. Would some kind soul take a stab at translating the Hebrew words on either side of the token/medal and in the first image? TIA
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  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382 ✭
    Sorry I can't however, be very careful buying anything from Belleair coin. I've has some dealings with them when I lived down there in the Largo/Belleair area that were not good. I don't know if the same guy has the shop anymore but he was one of those ones LucyBop calls a "grumpy dealer" I grew up right in that area.image
    Omnicoin
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    For starters, the the tails side is upside down. How's that for a start? image

    The head's side may say "Yeshua". Edited: For Yeshua, it should read, yod shin vav ayin. However, it reads yod shin vav aleph.... image

    Ed: Scratch the 4723 comment! Hmmmm.

    So, we have Yeshua and "Moshiah" from shipcoin. Where's someone who can finish this off. BTW, nice penmanship by whoever wrote the text on the paper.
  • ShipcoinShipcoin Posts: 1,243
    MacCrimmon ---- imageimage ...how did you do it?!


    Mark, it looks really very strange. About the text at head's side it is really "Yeshua" (the Christ) , as it should be written without last letter "ayin" . About the letter "alef" behind the head I don't know what to say and it doesn't look for me as years, but I'm not sure about it (ask airplanet about it image )

    Second side really hard to read upside down, as Mac remarked it image but the first words means "Moshiah - the king come..." sorry but after that word I coudn't translate it image

    Anyway, hope it will help you by someway...

    But all the thing, indeed, looks very strange ...and even how to say...wrong or untruth I would say..but you should ask real experts about it..image

    Edited to add: also I identifed the words "earth" , "alive" and "made" . The whole text might be something like that:
    "Moshiah -the king of people (last word is written wrong, if we are speaking about Hebrew and not other language) for sea and earth, (who) made from "alive" blood"
    N. N.
  • ShipcoinShipcoin Posts: 1,243
    My final image version, Mark:

    "Moshiah - the King comes from the Sea and from the Earth, made from alive (live) blood" image

    or "Moshiah the King comes from the Sea and Earth, "made from blood" and alive."
    N. N.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As best I can decipher, it says something along the lines of,


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  • satootokosatootoko Posts: 2,720 ✭
    The legend is probably some saying of the "Jews for Jesus" people, a Christian sect which celebrates many Jewish holidays, and whose members claim to be Jews, totally ignoring the fundamental precept of Judiasim - "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one."
    Roy


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  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭
    Thanks for the help, all!!image


    BTW Roy, Christians believe God is "One" as well.
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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>a Christian sect which celebrates many Jewish holidays >>

    You mean, like Yeshua did? Except, of course, Christmas and Easter....image

    Mark, I'll send the link to some friends who are quite fluent in Hebrew, old and new.

    I couldn't say at this point if it is a medal questioning or affirming Jesus' Divinity.

    The earth and blood references could allude to Adam in some way.
  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭
    There is an annotation in the letter referring to Exodus 38:2-4 (as best as I can make it out). That reads "(2) He made its horns on its four points, from it were its horns. He overlaid it with bronze. (3) He made all the implements for the slaughter site, the pails, the scrapers, the bowls, the flesh-hooks, and the pans; all its implements, he made of bronze. (4) He made for the slaughter-site a lattice, as a netting of bronze is made, beneath its ledge, below, (reaching) to its halfway-point." [Schocken Bible]

    Curiouser and curiouser.
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