Ud Finite Auto RC Dajuan Wagner # 2/80 Jers #

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 6:03AM

Up for Trade Or Sell, 02-03 Dajuan Wagner UD Finite RC AUTO # 2/80 His Jersey #... PM me AIM me or whatever ya wanna do...

CBEAR · April 23, 2003 6:09AM

PM Sent

Frank

Metros69 · April 23, 2003 6:14AM

please email me what you want dlvd $$

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 6:49AM

ttt

Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 7:38AM

stop trying to pawn off your fakely numbered card...show everyone the pic of it, and how bad you messed up with your sharpie.

knicks644 · April 23, 2003 7:51AM

Quiksilver77 leave him alone how do you know it is fake?

LAdude465 · April 23, 2003 7:58AM

check out my list in my sig and lmk what your looking for

Vincecarder · April 23, 2003 8:38AM

Here's a pic of the card.....

Here's a pic of what other cards from the same issue look like:

It's a tough call. Upper Deck numbered these ones real sloppy and since the card is on a glossy surface, you could rub the numbers and put whatever you want. That's why the best hand numbered cards are the ones that don't have the glossy surface that soak in the ink.

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 9:32AM

ttt

Vincecarder · April 23, 2003 9:36AM

I'm not sure if people want to pay the premieum on here for the jersey #.

Best bet is probably Ebay......

nismo68 · April 23, 2003 9:42AM

the "80" leans to the right, plus the "2" has that loop on the bottom,others dont have the loop i think...(need to see more pics to tell if fake) on the wagner, the rest are very centered

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 9:48AM

The Rest, (being you've seen all 9,000 that were signed between that many players??? Could you write multiple numbers everytime the same way in a row? Card has UD Authentication etc etc on back? an auto can be whiped off of paper? never knew that...

CBEAR · April 23, 2003 10:06AM

This is a pretty good debate...

First off...Most of these are sent to the players and/or autographed in person without any of the numering being done prior.

They are than numbered...by MANY different people from UD.

Needless to say...Many different variations will occur within the apperances of the numbers as there are many different people doing the numbering.

Yeah..you can take a chance and rub the original off and make it your very own...1 of 1

Doesn't look like that's the case with this one though...

My 3 cents worth...

bbtt123 · April 23, 2003 10:46AM

hand #d cards are a tough call..but rubbing off the # runs a highrisk to damaging the card....why take the chance of damaging the card...i know that it being jersey # is a big deal but there are better cards out there to change...plus i think collecting is a great guy

Vincecarder · April 23, 2003 12:00PM

How about this theory.......Some of these may have slipped through production without being numbered. Then someone pulls out a blue pen and marks in whatever number they want......hmmmmm

Can you say.....#11/80 being listed on ebay soon.

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 12:05PM

Oh So its a fake?

Ahhh... last I heard it was pulled out of a pack... Good one though....

Vincecarder · April 23, 2003 12:06PM

Never said it was fake buddy.....it's just a tough sell. If I was spending my cash on a card I would look at as many examples as possible and research into the card (hey were there any cards released without numbers)

As I suggested before, get it graded and it's a better sell for you.

EHTHOCKEY09 · April 23, 2003 12:21PM

Guys, lay off him, I know him...also know he's a legit dealer.

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 1:28PM

ttt

injun01 · April 23, 2003 2:03PM

LMAO...It DoEs LOOk OK TO ME

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Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 2:11PM

<< hand #d cards are a tough call..but rubbing off the # runs a highrisk to damaging the card....why take the chance of damaging the card...i know that it being jersey # is a big deal but there are better cards out there to change...plus i think collecting is a great guy >>

its easier than you think...

PS- you look at all of the other examples that he posted, and the numbering looks the same or very similar there....but his was done with a much larger tipped pen, and poorly i might add.

Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 2:13PM

obviously someone at UD does the numbering before the player signs, because it looks almost the same on every card except his...

Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 2:13PM

double post

Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 2:14PM

<< an auto can be whiped off of paper? never knew that... >>

yes it can stupid, the card surface is glossy, and its called rubbing alcohol....you could take a sharpie to any glossy card, and i could wipe off all traces of it to the naked eye, especially if im just going to write over the area again...

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 2:17PM

Larger tipped pen? uhhh could that be because tip is larger... Ur a funny bast*rd... I noticed in a sh*tload of your posts all you do is rip on other collectors? and CU allows you to be a member... that just truly sucks! want to speak with the owner who pulled it? PM me and you'll have his email -Steven

kr580 · April 23, 2003 2:32PM

<< Ur a funny bast*rd... I noticed in a sh*tload of your posts............... and CU allows you to be a member... that just truly sucks! >>

hypocrite...

<< want to speak with the owner who pulled it? PM me and you'll have his email >>

you have PROOF that he actually pulled it?

kr580 · April 23, 2003 2:34PM

<< Larger tipped pen? uhhh could that be because tip is larger... >>

dumbass... the tip is larger cause its a larger tipped pen...

hopefully that makes sense

Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 2:34PM

yeah, where is the proof that he pulled it, and didnt doctor it himself, huh? did you see him pull it? all you have is his word, which isnt good enough since that looks mad fake. it doesnt matter what he says, someone, somewhere along the line, even if it wasnt you messed with that card.

Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 2:36PM

<< I noticed in a sh*tload of your posts all you do is rip on other collectors? >>

someone has to be on idiot patrol...that someone is me.

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 2:40PM

lol... his 2500 feedback might prove that he pulled it.. but to you it probably doesn't... I messed up talking about the tip earlier cause your're really pi**in me off man... Don't comment if your not interestedin trading/buying the card... period...

Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 2:42PM

<< his 2500 feedback might prove that he pulled it.. but to you it probably doesn't >>

just because he sells a lot on ebay doesnt mean he didnt deface that card, lol...

also, you messed up because youre dumb, not because im pi ssing you off.

CollectingKing · April 23, 2003 2:44PM

Cool... Human mistake...

kr580 · April 23, 2003 2:44PM

<< Don't comment if your not interestedin trading/buying the card... period... >>

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Quiksilver77 · April 23, 2003 3:21PM

<< Cool... Human mistake... >>

call it what you will...

lol kev

autobilia · April 23, 2003 5:21PM

Quiksilver.... *cough*ShaqJersey*cough*

ejones06 · April 23, 2003 5:58PM

this does look kinda fishy because the "8" doesn't even look the same compared to the others. the others are sorta like two "O's", one on top of the other while king's is just different.

Vincecarder · April 24, 2003 12:51AM

Ejones.....that's basically what I noticed. The number "8" is a different style compairing to all the other "8's from the other card. It's larger and isn't in the shape of two small "o" on top of eachother. It does look larger and different, that's why there is some question to it's authenticity. I'd try and find some other Wagner's and see if they have the same numbering.

CBEAR · April 24, 2003 1:19AM

Yeah...

And UD employs one guy and one guy only who does nothing but writes numbers on cards...lol.

Quicksilver...Just a FYI for ya...Cards are numbered AFTER they are signed. This insures that if any autos are not "up to par" they can be pulled. Usually there are additional autos signed as well in case... as mentioned previously...The autos are smudged and/or for replacements.

Don't ya think if he was going to f#@$ up a card he would try and go for something a little bigger maybe???

Maybe he did...Maybe he didn't...One never knows.

And to all you "Wanna be Sherlock Holmes"...

Making UNFOUNDED CLAIMS on this guy with out ACTUAL PROOF is kinda bogus.

Have a nice day!

Quiksilver77 · April 24, 2003 1:29AM

lol cbear, i know, i just made a comment that it looked fake, and everyone started in on it

ejones06 · April 24, 2003 11:03AM

like cbear said that more than one person number the cards. that maybe true however, i strongly think that even if more than one person numbers it, it will be this one guy numbering all the ming's, one guy numbering the amare's, and so forth. SO, what we can really use as proof is when more finite wagner autos pop up on ebay.

Ud Finite Auto RC Dajuan Wagner # 2/80 Jers #

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