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Mexico -Guerrero 1914 GRO 2 Peso
coinkat
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The image does not help the cause. These have a somewhat crude appearance and trying to find one with the look is simply not easy. This one has a sharp strike for the issue with muted color and luster. I thought it compared reasonably well to the surviving population at the MS grade level... so consider taking a guess if you like. And as a reminder, grading is subjective and I suspect opinions on this coin may cover a wide spectrum on the grading scale.
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Great 2 pesos!
I agree these are super tough to grade with all of the weak strikes out there. I would say this one is better struck than most... beyond that any grade I could come up with would be based solely on "vibes" (as the kids say).
For me, it’s too dark to grade from a photo. Good luck!
I’ll toss out a guess of AU 53. I bet there’s some luster under there. Seen enough mid-level trueviews lately to predict that one is nicer in hand.
I love originality like this. Nice pickup.
I will comment and post the grade after a few more replies...
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I guess I'll go out on a limb and say MS61...
AU58 environmental damage
This one straight graded and is within the MS spectrum
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We can all agree that this very limited series leaves a lot to be desired in terms of being a quality product from the mint. Instead, the overall crudeness of the production seems to capture a chaotic and unstable period in Mexican history. And perhaps for that reason, it is worth owning if one is seriously interested in Mexican history as captured by numismatics.
This is the other of the two submissions that missed the low end of my grade range expectations. @threefifty did opine as PCGS did with a grade of MS61. My range at the low end was MS62 40% and thought it had about a 40% shot at 63 and a 20% shot at 64. I choose to share this mainly because there is an interest in Mexican numismatics here on the forum. This also serves to illustrate how difficult coin photography can be especially if the real intent is to capture the essence of the coin. Some coins just have a look that is problematic to capture in an image... And this is one of them. The coin does have muted luster with a surface quality that I see as being above average for the type. There is a sharpness at the high points of the design that I thought would carry the coin to a higher grade range. I am not suggesting our Host got it wrong... instead this outcome really does amplify the subjective nature of grading,
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Great post and discussion, @coinkat, thank you for sharing!
I have one of the type and will show it below to illustrate a lower AU grade. The coin has some wear and the Trueview is a little yellowish, but I think is a solid example. The sun is rather well struck and I think the planchet is well made.
nice looking coin... I am curious if there are any records of the total number of dies used and if has been interest in die pairings for the date.
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Coinage of the Mexican Revolutionist Zapata, A Classification Guide by Elwin C. Leslie and Erma C. Stevens.
• Authored by Elwin C. Leslie and Erma C. Stevens and privately printed in 1968, with a total print run consisting of 50 presentation copies and 500 standard softcover copies (81 pages).
• Scope and Classification: The book serves as a detailed catalog and classification guide for the rich, decentralized wartime and revolutionary currency issued under the forces of Emiliano Zapata during the Mexican Revolution (1914–1918).
• Mints and Denominations: It details silver and bronze/copper issues produced across at least ten different revolutionary mints in southern Mexico (such as Guerrero, Cacahuatepec, and Atlixtac).
• Historical Numismatic Value: The guide breaks down die varieties, metal content (including the notable gold-content assurances stamped on Zapatista silver pesos and two-peso pieces like "ORO: 0,300"), and the political slogans such as "Reforma, Libertad, Justicia y Ley".
Thanks... I am not at all familiar with this work. Time for a search to see how available this is...
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Another reference including die pairings...
Mexican Revolutionary Coinage: 1913–1917
Hugh S. Guthrie, in collaboration with Merrill Bothamley
Published 1976 by Superior Stamp & Coin Co., Inc. — Beverly Hills, CA