SemiQ 2026 $1 Coin Rolls & Bags on sale Sep 2nd. Let the privy hunt begin!

@tahbb143 said:
heading into the long holiday weekend with all my recent orders processing and no tracking # - looking forward to seeing these in october 😅🫠

Yes, mine as well. Some of mine should have made the cut off to not be backordered, so hoping they get moving early next week.

@Goldbully said:

@Survivor50 said:

@Goldbully said:
Well, we got our very first PCGS graded 2026 $1 Donald J. Trump w/ July 4th Privy Semiquincentennial(PCGS #1020602) .....MS65 - Pop 1

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What the heck is 'First Discovery?'

Anyone here want to own up to it?

The non privy PCGS #1020599.................nothing there yet.

Based on the coin graded at the ANA convention, I would guess 'First Discovery' is the label fort he first one submitted to them for grading.

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I assume First Discovery has more appeal than First Strike.

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I'm not into stabbed coins, but yes, I believe there can only be one first discovery, whereas I think first strike covers any submitted within the required time frame.

@mach19 said:
If these are only made in Philly , why do they go to Coppell TX distribution center ? Is It a packaging issue ?

you can answer that yourself if you open up

what doesn't come from TX and TN?

@Survivor50 said:

@tahbb143 said:
heading into the long holiday weekend with all my recent orders processing and no tracking # - looking forward to seeing these in october 😅🫠

Yes, mine as well. Some of mine should have made the cut off to not be backordered, so hoping they get moving early next week.

There is no "should have." You can go into your account and see whether your orders are processing or on back order, no matter what you think about the cut off.

@mach19 said:

@NJCoin said:

@mach19 said:
If these are only made in Philly , why do they go to Coppell TX distribution center ? Is It a packaging issue ?

Because Philly is the manufacturing plant. TX is where the third party distribution company has set up operations for the Mint retail program. From which they ship retail orders of product that can be produced in Philly, Denver, West Point, or San Francisco. That's why.

The exact same reason the Nabisco cookies you buy in a grocery store are not shipped to the store, or to your house, from a cookie bakery, but, rather, from a distribution center.

Thank you ...

My pleasure!

@JBK said:

@mach19 said:
If these are only made in Philly , why do they go to Coppell TX distribution center ? Is It a packaging issue ?

Because that's where their fulfillment center is, apparently.

Now I have to wonder if some of the "backorder" stuff is just a transport issue. Maybe they only had a certain amount prepositioned there to be shipped out right away, while the rest has to be shipped down there. Of course, they might also might be waiting for more to be rolled/bagged by the vendor that does that.

???? To my knowledge, they do not have an outside vendor that does packaging for them. I hope someone corrects me if I am wrong.

Also to my knowledge, "back order" is never a transportation issue. It's always either packaging, or manufacturing. Where they just don't have everything ready to go at launch, or they make an intentional decision to not produce the maximum quantity in advance, while waiting to see demand.

Simply no way to know WHY these are back ordered. And, it's not really an issue, unless they did not hold back privies to mix into back ordered product.

And, it would never even occur to us to question that if it did not happen before. But it did, and we do.

All the speculation means nothing, because it could go either way, and there would be reasons for both. And, if we have learned nothing else from the past few years, we should have learned that the Mint now does what it wants to, and does not answer to any of us.

@NJCoin said:

@JBK said:

@mach19 said:
If these are only made in Philly , why do they go to Coppell TX distribution center ? Is It a packaging issue ?

Because that's where their fulfillment center is, apparently.

Now I have to wonder if some of the "backorder" stuff is just a transport issue. Maybe they only had a certain amount prepositioned there to be shipped out right away, while the rest has to be shipped down there. Of course, they might also might be waiting for more to be rolled/bagged by the vendor that does that.

???? To my knowledge, they do not have an outside vendor that does packaging for them. I hope someone corrects me if I am wrong.

Also to my knowledge, "back order" is never a transportation issue. It's always either packaging, or manufacturing. Where they just don't have everything ready to go at launch, or they make an intentional decision to not produce the maximum quantity in advance, while waiting to see demand.

It is common knowledge that the mint has an outside vendor roll and (presumably) bag the coins it sells.

I agree that we have generally understood "backorder" to be a reference to a need for packaging or striking additional coins. But what if the rolled/bagged coins are sitting in Philadelphia and need to be transported to the fulfillment center? What status would orders have if they were waiting for those coins to be transported to the fulfillment center? (It's a rhetorical question since I don't think anyone really knows the answer).

One of the first "unboxing" and counting of the Privy's...

...and a new one - apparently, there is a belief, in a conspiracy out there - that if you order two of something, one of the two does not have Privy's in there (but we've seen that theory debunked here with some reports of Privy's in both packages).

https://youtu.be/h0Phyig61Zw?si=lrblVMgalV1kjNWD

@NJCoin said:

@JBK said:

@NJCoin said:

@JBK said:

@mach19 said:
If these are only made in Philly , why do they go to Coppell TX distribution center ? Is It a packaging issue ?

Because that's where their fulfillment center is, apparently.

Now I have to wonder if some of the "backorder" stuff is just a transport issue. Maybe they only had a certain amount prepositioned there to be shipped out right away, while the rest has to be shipped down there. Of course, they might also might be waiting for more to be rolled/bagged by the vendor that does that.

???? To my knowledge, they do not have an outside vendor that does packaging for them. I hope someone corrects me if I am wrong.

Also to my knowledge, "back order" is never a transportation issue. It's always either packaging, or manufacturing. Where they just don't have everything ready to go at launch, or they make an intentional decision to not produce the maximum quantity in advance, while waiting to see demand.

It is common knowledge that the mint has an outside vendor roll and (presumably) bag the coins it sells.

I agree that we have generally understood "backorder" to be a reference to a need for packaging or striking additional coins. But what if the rolled/bagged coins are sitting in Philadelphia and need to be transported to the fulfillment center? What status would orders have if they were waiting for those coins to be transported to the fulfillment center? (It's a rhetorical question since I don't think anyone really knows the answer).

Agreed! I did not possess the common knowledge about the packaging. I thought they did that in house, with packaging product produced by vendors.

As far as transportation goes, no, if they are not doing the packaging in house, why would packaged product go back to the factory rather than to the fulfillment center? So, I'm sorry, but it makes no sense to me that there are bags and rolls sitting somewhere other than the fulfillment center, waiting for a truck, train or plane to get them to TX.

That said, your point is valid. For whatever reason, if product is not in the fulfillment center, ready to be shipped, then it is back ordered, by definition.

I do not know who does the rolling/bagging but I believe that it is not the fulfillment center. It would make sense if the company that does the packaging sent inventory directly to the fulfillment center, but who knows if that is the way it works. And if it is the way it works, how long does it take to get there? (I have no idea).

I do know that the mint retail stores (just Philly?) had the coins on the on-sale date. So, either they normally have the inventory on hand and ship it to Texas as needed (not necessarily very efficient), or they took delivery of a quantity of product either from the packager or the fulfillment center.

The mint's logistics process might be very advanced, or not. I certainly don't know the answer.

One other thing to think about is whether or not the mint wants entire mintages (many millions of dollars) sitting in an independent fulfillment center. There is risk and insurance involved. It would not surprise me if they did not want that and only shipped them what they were reasonably expected to ship out within a certain time frame.

It's all a bit of a mystery, atleast to me.

@MsMorrisine said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_sVRs06jWU

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You're starting to confuse the issue. We were referring to rolls/bags only.

I believe that the mint does the "packaging" (i.e. insert coins into capsules, capsules into boxes, sets into cases, etc.).

However, the mint does not roll coins, and presumably does not put coins into the cloth bags. (It does pack the large ballistic bags.).

I am quite sure final packaging is not done at the fulfillment center. In fact, in spite of what you said, I'd be surprised if it was not done at the Mint itself, using packaging obtained from vendors. I just seriously doubt they send raw coins out to vendors for them to package.

That's exactly what they do for rolls and presumably cloth bags. Then it's back to the mint to be sealed into the products' thin cardboard box, like all other offerings

I'm pretty sure that the entire chain of custody is the production facility, fulfillment center, and then final destination (Mint store, or us). No way they are going to send millions of dollars worth of raw coins out to a packaging vendor for packaging and storage. No QC, and little to no security.

They absolutely do send millions of dollars of coins out to be rolled and, presumably, bagged.

So, for those coins, its mint>vendor>mint>fulfillment center.

My original question essentially was, what points along the way constitute "backorder"?

Need to mint more coins: backorder

Coins are struck but not rolled/bagged: backorder

Coins are rolled/bagged but not yet packaged in thin cardboard product box: backorder?

Coins are packaged but not yet delivered to fulfillment center: backorder, or processing?

Bags and rolls...does somebody here need an eye lift?

@JBK said:
You're starting to confuse the issue. We were referring to rolls/bags only.

I believe that the mint does the "packaging" (i.e. insert coins into capsules, capsules into boxes, sets into cases, etc.).

However, the mint does not roll coins, and presumably does not put coins into the cloth bags. (It does pack the large ballistic bags.).

I am quite sure final packaging is not done at the fulfillment center. In fact, in spite of what you said, I'd be surprised if it was not done at the Mint itself, using packaging obtained from vendors. I just seriously doubt they send raw coins out to vendors for them to package.

That's exactly what they do for rolls and presumably cloth bags. Then it's back to the mint to be sealed into the products' thin cardboard box, like all other offerings

I'm pretty sure that the entire chain of custody is the production facility, fulfillment center, and then final destination (Mint store, or us). No way they are going to send millions of dollars worth of raw coins out to a packaging vendor for packaging and storage. No QC, and little to no security.

They absolutely do send millions of dollars of coins out to be rolled and, presumably, bagged.

So, for those coins, its mint>vendor>mint>fulfillment center.

My original question essentially was, what points along the way constitute "backorder"?

Need to mint more coins: backorder

Coins are struck but not rolled/bagged: backorder

Coins are rolled/bagged but not yet packaged in thin cardboard product box: backorder?

Coins are packaged but not yet delivered to fulfillment center: backorder, or processing?

I see what you are saying now, although I don't understand why the Mint can put things in capsules and boxes, but not rolls and bags.

I any event, I am reasonably sure that anything that is not in the fulfillment center, available to be shipped, would be back ordered, regardless of the reason why. This is likely why some things are back ordered for less than a week while others are back ordered for months.

@HalfDime said:
From the production figures it appears they struck enough early to fill all the orders, so it is likely a packaging issue. However, that is only a guess and the mint can do mysterious things.

That is my guess. The only other possibility is that they shipped 10 million to banks which seems unlikely.

My first order shipped yesterday from Texas. It will be interesting to see to know if anyone was lucky enough to get a privy from this distribution site. I might have missed someone already mentioning it’s sorry in advance.

Some more stories on the Privy Coin...

https://alphabullion.com/blog/2026/9/trump-dollar-random-privy-hunt.html

https://bullionexchanges.com/blog/us-mint-confirms-250000-july-4th-privy-trump-dollars

I'm not sure I am seeing the concern about backordered products not having privy coins

Apparent facts:

Initial striking was 9 million
8.75 million were needed for total product production
8.75 million includes 250,000 of July 4th privy strikes

Why would the mint put in 250,000 privy coins in less than half of total production? Are they that sloppy?

The US Mint took enough total orders to cover all sales of the product, including backordered ones.

Likely reason: The company they ordered the packaging with could only make about half of the amount needed because they ran out of cardboard or plastic inserts.

Without rehashing world history it seems extremely likely all bags and rolls they send out will have a chance of having privy coins throughout the product cycle. The odds were some bags and rolls would be released with no privy coins based on weak insertion of them, and no other reason. There was also only enough to fill about 2/3 of rolls with only one so about 1/3 would likely have no privy coins. There were enough for about 3 per bag, but even those have some with none, and apparently with some up to 6.

Could the mint have totally blown this and only done what some claim they might have done? Yes, there is a chance of anything, but it seems extremely unlikely at this point. Also, if they had done it, then the first rolls and bags would have double what they should, and it doesn't appear that way so far.

The scam artists are out in full swing on eBay lol. People are selling bank rolls saying there’s the possibility of finding a privy smh. And they are selling like hotcakes!

@JBK said:

@Bundles84 said:
The scam artists are out in full swing on eBay lol. People are selling bank rolls saying there’s the possibility of finding a privy smh. And they are selling like hotcakes!

The other big news here is that people are getting bank rolls of the new dollar coins.

I wonder if these are the guys that have the bots and obtained all the bags and rolls removing the privies and re-rolling with their company name or web address on the roll? Some are truthful and state no privy but others are deceptive in the wording by avoiding whether these are searched, avoid stating these are not rolls from the mint, etc. misleading the general public. eBay is flooded with these bank rolls.

I'm really happy for those having success in their searches. I hope you all are able to flip them while the hype is still fresh and when the profits are greatest. (Most hyped moderns have an initial spike before plateauing eventually).

@HalfDime said:
I'm not sure I am seeing the concern about backordered products not having privy coins

Apparent facts:

Initial striking was 9 million
8.75 million were needed for total product production
8.75 million includes 250,000 of July 4th privy strikes

Why would the mint put in 250,000 privy coins in less than half of total production? Are they that sloppy?

The US Mint took enough total orders to cover all sales of the product, including backordered ones.

Likely reason: The company they ordered the packaging with could only make about half of the amount needed because they ran out of cardboard or plastic inserts.

Without rehashing world history it seems extremely likely all bags and rolls they send out will have a chance of having privy coins throughout the product cycle. The odds were some bags and rolls would be released with no privy coins based on weak insertion of them, and no other reason. There was also only enough to fill about 2/3 of rolls with only one so about 1/3 would likely have no privy coins. There were enough for about 3 per bag, but even those have some with none, and apparently with some up to 6.

Could the mint have totally blown this and only done what some claim they might have done? Yes, there is a chance of anything, but it seems extremely unlikely at this point. Also, if they had done it, then the first rolls and bags would have double what they should, and it doesn't appear that way so far.

Except, we have no idea what the hit rate was for ABPP. Just no way to know until the back orders hit the market.

What you are saying makes perfect sense. But past performance indicates the 250K might have also all been mixed in what was packaged for initial release. Nothing is "extremely likely" or "extremely unlikely" based on tiny sample anecdotal evidence.

And, either way, the Mint will not have "totally blown" anything. If everything was mixed in the first batch, that will not have been an accident. It will have been intentional, in order for them to take care of ABPP. If it happened, it will not have been the first time.

This level of skepticism is nothing more than a natural consequence of multiple games they have played with multiple releases over the past few years. It is not ill founded, regardless of how this turns out this time.

I was stuck in the waiting room this morning. Was there any available today?