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TOMMY JOHN FORMER DODGER GREAT PASSED AWAY TODAY

NEXT STOP HEAVEN AND HOF....VERY SAD..PRAYERS GO OUT TO HIS FAMILY.

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    Yankees70Yankees70 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2026 10:56AM

    I watched him pitch in person many times when he was with the Dodgers and a couple of times when he was on the Yankees when they played at Angel stadium. One of the worst managerial calls in World Series history involved Tommy John. Game 6 with the Dodgers leading the Yankees 3 games to 2 - Bottom of the 4th in a 1-1 game. Tommy John is do up with two runners on and two outs. Bob Lemon, the manager of the Yankees, decides to pull Tommy John from the game and sends up Bobby Murcer to pinch hit. Tommy John was shown on TV to be very upset with the decision to pull him from the game which led to a Dodger blowout win.

    Murcer lined out to deep right and the new Yankee pitcher George Frazier immediately gave up 3 runs and the game was over. Dodgers won 9-2 and won the World Series. Frazier lost three games in this World Series and to this day the decision by Lemon to pull John in a 1-1 game in the 4th inning still does not make sense.

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    1982FootballWax1982FootballWax Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2026 12:55PM

    Former White Sox, Dodgers, Yankees Great.

    His WAR was best for Sox!

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
    Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)

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    BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1982FootballWax said:
    Former White Sox, Dodgers, Yankees Great.

    His WAR was best for Sox!

    No doubt. I’ll always remember him as a Yankee and ChiSox.

    Really hoped he’d make the HoF while still alive.

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    calaban7calaban7 Posts: 3,067 ✭✭✭✭

    Over the years , I've met him multiple times . He was one of the nicest ball player that I've ever met .

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Condolences to all family and fans.

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    baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭

    sad news

    another good one gone

    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

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    His numbers merit Hall Of Fame induction, and when you factor in his eponymous surgery he should absolutely be in there. Hopefully his omission corrected soon. RIP Tommy.

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    IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RIP

    IMF

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    balco758balco758 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I met him once too as well as a youngster at a camp his son attended. classy guy.

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    Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very sad.

    I've had this card a long time.

    Mike
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    balco758balco758 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Throw back slab - nice one Mike!!

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    coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2026 9:44PM

    @MantleMarisFordBerra said:

    His numbers merit Hall Of Fame induction, and when you factor in his eponymous surgery he should absolutely be in there. Hopefully his omission corrected soon. RIP Tommy.

    Another to the long list of players who will probably get elected after his passing. Sad but true.

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    1982FootballWax1982FootballWax Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2026 7:47AM

    There really needs to be a committee that evaluates positions that can then elect multiple candidates with very similar careers without the normal BS.

    Example 2nd base, in alphabetical order:

    Bobby Grich
    Willie Randolph
    Lou Whitiker

    The fact none are in the hall is a travesty, but they all should be! Each of them had near double Harold Baines' (yeah a low bar to be sure) ultra lengthy career WAR and unlike Baines actually played defense and did it very well.

    As I said put those 3 in en-mass. No need to nitpick that one had more power but another had better defense or that one had more championships or that one has slight better OPS etc...

    Then move on to 3rd base and so forth.

    If it had been done for Pitching perhaps John is in. Dude and his family deserved it before he passed!

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
    Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)

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    emaremar Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭

    @1982FootballWax said:
    There really needs to be a committee that evaluates positions that can then elect multiple candidates with very similar careers without the normal BS.

    Example 2nd base, in alphabetical order:

    Bobby Grich
    Willie Randolph
    Lou Whitiker

    The fact none are in the hall is a travesty, but they all should be! Each of them had near double Harold Baines' (yeah a low bar to be sure) ultra lengthy career WAR and unlike Baines actually played defense and did it very well.

    As I said put those 3 in en-mass. No need to nitpick that one had more power but another had better defense or that one had more championships or that one has slight better OPS etc...

    Then move on to 3rd base and so forth.

    If it had been done for Pitching perhaps John is in. Dude and his family deserved it before he passed!

    Richie Allen passed in 2020; finally got his recognition in 2025 by the Classic Baseball Era Committee.
    Mr. Allen was rejected by a couple committees while he was with us.

    Thankfully Tony Oliva was elected in 2022 while he is still with us.
    I remember seeing a reaction video of Mr. Oliva; it was truly heart-warming.

    Give these gentlemen their recognition while they are with us!!!

    Richie Allen missing out on his HOF induction was heart-breaking

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    1982FootballWax1982FootballWax Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2026 11:19AM

    Glad Dave Parker got to at least see he was elected, had that occurred any year prior he woudl have made it to the ceremony.

    I wonder how many on the Vets Committee are sociopaths? Meaning those who are without empathy that string out deserving players in the octogenarian range year after year so they and their families are deprived.

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)
    Not even a minute do I buy the whole buh buh buh I'm a man-child japery - Me (2025)

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    BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree 100%. Put these guys in. They deserve to be in there.

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    olb31olb31 Posts: 4,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Funny you mentioned Grich, I was just thinking that he was probably very close to being hall of famer. Randolph, Lopes, Bill Russell, Dusty Baker, Dave Kingman, George Foster. Lots of candidates.

    However I side more with the people who want limited HOFers. Billy W., Tony O., R Santo. All where fabulous players, but HOF players, i dunno know. WHen I think Hall, I am thinking about the greatest of the greatest. Like Fergie was fantastic but when he was pitching he wasn't considered to be a top 10 pitcher for any decade in particular. Jim Kaat same way.

    BUt since the door has been opened to very good players instead of the greatest players then the argument really gets going on how many do you let in.

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    ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 2,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The cluelessness behind dismissing Ferguson Jenkins as anything other than a deserving entrant to the HOF has been noted.

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    BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyone's definition of greatest, fabulous, etc... are all just subjective. When you have more than 1 player in then there will always be someone less talented/deserving. That doesn't mean more guys don't deserve to be in.

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    balco758balco758 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dusty will get in.

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