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Were Walter Payton (Series 1) and Marino (Series 2) "Heroes" autos in packs of 1992 Upper Deck FB?

sportscardtheorysportscardtheory Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭
edited December 7, 2018 1:46PM in Trading Cards & Memorabilia Forum

Every other Heroes auto from 1990 to 1992 were inserted into packs, yet the 1992 Payton and Marino's Heroes autos/2800 have UDA boxes and certs that clearly didn't come in packs. What gives? Were they inserted into packs, only available from UDA or both?

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    NRCollectorNRCollector Posts: 14 ✭

    I know this is an old post but in case you never got your answer or someone else is has the same question, the /2500 were retail pack pulled, /2800 were UDA purchases, and the /3000 were from special dealer boxed.

    More info here: https://find-the-heroes.vercel.app/resources

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    athleticsfanathleticsfan Posts: 270 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting the link. I have about 10 of the Ryan boxes. Always wondered what the odds were of pulling one. Didn't know about the possible inscriptions either.

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    1982FootballWax1982FootballWax Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @athleticsfan said:
    Thanks for posting the link. I have about 10 of the Ryan boxes. Always wondered what the odds were of pulling one. Didn't know about the possible inscriptions either.

    Not sure i have this correct but...

    1 in 150 boxes = 1 in 54000 packs. But I've heard rumors over the years it was actually 1 per 300 or more boxes as they just kept running the presses and that 100 of the 2500 were kept by those in UD or given out as "gifts'

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    junkwaxgemsjunkwaxgems Posts: 291 ✭✭✭

    @NRCollector said:
    I know this is an old post but in case you never got your answer or someone else is has the same question, the /2500 were retail pack pulled, /2800 were UDA purchases, and the /3000 were from special dealer boxed.

    More info here: https://find-the-heroes.vercel.app/resources

    Both Marino and Payton autos were not inserted in any packs. I remember this causing a fuss in the hobby at the time.

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    NRCollectorNRCollector Posts: 14 ✭

    @junkwaxgems said:

    @NRCollector said:
    I know this is an old post but in case you never got your answer or someone else is has the same question, the /2500 were retail pack pulled, /2800 were UDA purchases, and the /3000 were from special dealer boxed.

    More info here: https://find-the-heroes.vercel.app/resources

    Both Marino and Payton autos were not inserted in any packs. I remember this causing a fuss in the hobby at the time.

    Correct, Payton, Marino, and Gretzky were from UDA retail sales and not available in packs:

    In 1992, Upper Deck launched Upper Deck Authenticated (UDA), the first formal in-person authentication system in the sports memorabilia industry. Three Heroes autographs from 1992 onward (Walter Payton, Dan Marino, and Wayne Gretzky) were shifted from pack-inserted chase cards to factory-assembled UDA retail products: framed/boxed sets sold with matching serial-numbered COA cards and UDA holograms. These three sets are numbered to /2,800 rather than /2,500 to account for retail inventory and replacement copies.

    https://findtheheroes.com/#full-series

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    brad31brad31 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyone know why all of the Payton autos are severely faded? They all look like they have been in the sun since he was a rookie!

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    AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭✭

    Must be a pen issue.

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